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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:10 am    Post subject: system startup failed Reply with quote

Hi, i've searched the site and tried many different recommendations from different posts, i recently got a korg kronos X handed down from a family member and it worked a few times before this error started to appear, i've tried testing the ram (haven't installed new ram yet, but took out each stick and reseated them), tried a different cable for the SSD, tried doing a file system check on the SSD and downloaded the Restore DVD and tried with 2 different DVD players, but the system is not reading them, i'm thinking its either a PSU issue, or a motherboard issue. anyone know the PSU model or anything else i could try??

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: system startup failed Reply with quote

hauser7 wrote:
Hi, i've searched the site and tried many different recommendations from different posts, i recently got a korg kronos X handed down from a family member and it worked a few times before this error started to appear, i've tried testing the ram (haven't installed new ram yet, but took out each stick and reseated them), tried a different cable for the SSD, tried doing a file system check on the SSD and downloaded the Restore DVD and tried with 2 different DVD players, but the system is not reading them, i'm thinking its either a PSU issue, or a motherboard issue. anyone know the PSU model or anything else i could try??

thanks


If you are going the PSU route it sounds like you are into DIY trial and error.
There is the MOBO to play with but I have zero knowledge on that.

Antony, 1 of our best sound designers knows about the PSU replacements, from what I recall. He has mentioned it a few times.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: system startup failed Reply with quote

Power supply is ENO-1612 by Enhance Electronics, good luck getting one outside of Korg though. Had the same problem with my X, spent over 700 bucks and 6 months swapping parts, mostly because of a Intel Atom MB I got from Ebay which was partly defective supposedly. After sitting at a repair facility for 6 months because everyone including Korg were stumped, they tried another MB and it fixed it. Start with the motherboard. The supply is probably OK, at least you can take a VM to it and check the voltages.



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Hi, i've searched the site and tried many different recommendations from different posts, i recently got a korg kronos X handed down from a family member and it worked a few times before this error started to appear, i've tried testing the ram (haven't installed new ram yet, but took out each stick and reseated them), tried a different cable for the SSD, tried doing a file system check on the SSD and downloaded the Restore DVD and tried with 2 different DVD players, but the system is not reading them, i'm thinking its either a PSU issue, or a motherboard issue. anyone know the PSU model or anything else i could try??

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:55 am    Post subject: Re: system startup failed Reply with quote

hauser7 wrote:
i'm thinking its either a PSU issue, or a motherboard issue. anyone know the PSU model or anything else i could try??

I highly doubt that this is a PSU either a motherboard issue !
PSU failure will cause a sudden death of Kronos and screen will be blank too !
System start up failure (if not seated well Ram in sockets case) means by 95% corrupted system files or SSD failure , so you
have to find the suitable/combatible to Kronos USB DVD drive first (like Lite-On EBAU108 or LG DVD drive) and reinstall in format mode !
BTW Kronos X Ram is already updated to the 3GB max Ram !
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: system startup failed Reply with quote

AntonySharmman wrote:
hauser7 wrote:
i'm thinking its either a PSU issue, or a motherboard issue. anyone know the PSU model or anything else i could try??

I highly doubt that this is a PSU either a motherboard issue !
PSU failure will cause a sudden death of Kronos and screen will be blank too !
System start up failure (if not seated well Ram in sockets case) means by 95% corrupted system files or SSD failure , so you
have to find the suitable/combatible to Kronos USB DVD drive first (like Lite-On EBAU108 or LG DVD drive) and reinstall in format mode !
BTW Kronos X Ram is already updated to the 3GB max Ram !


thank you, i did try with an LG DVD i found on my local best buy but it wasn't working so i will buy the LiteON to test that out, and will post afterwards. thanks again!,

the DVD's created from the download in the korg website should work fine no? i dont have the original DVD's.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: system startup failed Reply with quote

AntonySharmman wrote:
hauser7 wrote:
i'm thinking its either a PSU issue, or a motherboard issue. anyone know the PSU model or anything else i could try??

I highly doubt that this is a PSU either a motherboard issue !
PSU failure will cause a sudden death of Kronos and screen will be blank too !
System start up failure (if not seated well Ram in sockets case) means by 95% corrupted system files or SSD failure , so you
have to find the suitable/combatible to Kronos USB DVD drive first (like Lite-On EBAU108 or LG DVD drive) and reinstall in format mode !
BTW Kronos X Ram is already updated to the 3GB max Ram !


Antony quick question, if i connect a monitor via VGA should i have any output on the MOBO? just want to make sure the MOBO is not faulty as well. in any case i ordered the Lite on DVD and should test after it arrives.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: system startup failed Reply with quote

Samsung SE208AB External DVD Drive with dual usb connectors is the one I used for my X, worked great.



hauser7 wrote:
AntonySharmman wrote:
hauser7 wrote:
i'm thinking its either a PSU issue, or a motherboard issue. anyone know the PSU model or anything else i could try??

I highly doubt that this is a PSU either a motherboard issue !
PSU failure will cause a sudden death of Kronos and screen will be blank too !
System start up failure (if not seated well Ram in sockets case) means by 95% corrupted system files or SSD failure , so you
have to find the suitable/combatible to Kronos USB DVD drive first (like Lite-On EBAU108 or LG DVD drive) and reinstall in format mode !
BTW Kronos X Ram is already updated to the 3GB max Ram !


thank you, i did try with an LG DVD i found on my local best buy but it wasn't working so i will buy the LiteON to test that out, and will post afterwards. thanks again!,

the DVD's created from the download in the korg website should work fine no? i dont have the original DVD's.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

- Official DVD ISOs are in dual layer format , so buy 2 duall layer DVDs , use a PC/Mac utility to burn them and use them with drive.
- You would have output on VGA but not as expected , since OS works as an amplication and screen data are multiplexed
but you will have linux basic commands (using PC keyboard) to ensure that mobo is fine as I strongly believe !
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AntonySharmman wrote:
- Official DVD ISOs are in dual layer format , so buy 2 duall layer DVDs , use a PC/Mac utility to burn them and use them with drive.
- You would have output on VGA but not as expected , since OS works as an amplication and screen data are multiplexed
but you will have linux basic commands (using PC keyboard) to ensure that mobo is fine as I strongly believe !


I'm getting the LiteON DVD Tomorrow but i plugged in a monitor via VGA and nothing shows up, in fact the monitor doesn't receive any signal. I will try tomorrow with the DVD. thanks for your time Antony
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish you not to be the 1 in 1000 case of a defective motherboard (rare but valid) and have a happy end with this ! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AntonySharmman wrote:
I wish you not to be the 1 in 1000 case of a defective motherboard (rare but valid) and have a happy end with this ! Very Happy


as we pointed out, humorously, it is mostly impossible to diagnose the O/p component problem. There is little 'story' to work with. Its like performing a root canal online without an x-ray

I agree, mobo failure is highly unlikely. I don't quite understand the trial and error DIY approach. Serious K repairs are better handled by an authorized service person. To each their own, I suppose.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, i swapped the MOBO and it started to boot but it stops halfway and says please reinstall system software...the error it shows is: 19, keybed

the DVD's i copied are not booting up, so i will take it in for repairs. i wanted to try to do it myself an avoid having to pay for an expensive repair thats why i went the DIY way.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hauser7 wrote:
So, i swapped the MOBO and it started to boot but it stops halfway and says please reinstall system software...

It was obvious that your problem is corrupted system files of SSD , so your only issue now is to find a DVD drive compatible to Kronos !

Good luck
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hauser7 wrote:
So, i swapped the MOBO and it started to boot but it stops halfway and says please reinstall system software...the error it shows is: 19, keybed

the DVD's i copied are not booting up, so i will take it in for repairs. i wanted to try to do it myself an avoid having to pay for an expensive repair thats why i went the DIY way.


Sure, worth a try.

Are u in the US ?

What did the mobo cost and what was the exact model part # ?

This will help other k owners
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregC wrote:
hauser7 wrote:
So, i swapped the MOBO and it started to boot but it stops halfway and says please reinstall system software...the error it shows is: 19, keybed

the DVD's i copied are not booting up, so i will take it in for repairs. i wanted to try to do it myself an avoid having to pay for an expensive repair thats why i went the DIY way.


Sure, worth a try.

Are u in the US ?

What did the mobo cost and what was the exact model part # ?

This will help other k owners


Yes, im in the US.

The Mobo is a "Intel D525MW Dual Core Atom CPU D525 1.8Ghz Mini ITX Motherboard Intel", and it was 24$ on Ebay.
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