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dphil5163
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:44 pm Post subject: Kronos 73 starting to shut down, ask for reboot frequently |
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I went back and rebuilt all my programs from scratch so that there would be no unnecessary junk there, then created another Set List. The other day during a live set (no sequencing) I had the setting on PIANO and was getting ready to start the song when it crashed. Anyone have any suggestions?? |
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GregC Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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hope this is not a big hassle.
A google search will show this scenario occurring and posted about every week here. All with a dozen trouble shooting steps and tips
You should also clarify if your K is new,old, more history. How full is your SSD and have you modded your K. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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What OS version you have would also be a good idea to include. If you haven't did you try updating to the latest OS? _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
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dphil5163
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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My Kronos is a first generation unit and I am using the latest OS.
I have edited the Factory Programs and Combis to include these sounds in my SET LIST:
KRS-04 Pro Splits and Layers
KRS-35 OASYS HD-1 Dreams
EXS-92 Atmospheric |
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GregC Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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dphil5163 wrote: | My Kronos is a first generation unit and I am using the latest OS.
I have edited the Factory Programs and Combis to include these sounds in my SET LIST:
KRS-04 Pro Splits and Layers
KRS-35 OASYS HD-1 Dreams
EXS-92 Atmospheric |
you mentioned ' live set'
clarify if you gig, or not.
tell us if you have a UPS. Or not _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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In the subject line you say
"...ask for reboot frequently"
Are the conditions identical every time, that is you say you were on piano and it happened. Does it happen from any other mode, Combi, program, Etc. And how frequently? Anytime you are using the Kronos? _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
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dphil5163
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I do play live but I rarely MOVE the Kronos. it usually stays in a climate controlled room.
The conditions differ every time it shuts down. My Set List includes mostly Combis. The last time it shut down it was in a Combo mode with the German Grand as the first layer. Shut downs do usually occur after it has been on for a while, though.
I do not have a UPS. No one else on the stage has ever had power surge issues, though. |
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GregC Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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dphil5163 wrote: |
1) Shut downs do usually occur after it has been on for a while, though.
2)I do not have a UPS. No one else on the stage has ever had power surge issues, though. |
I have the 1st Gen K, an 88.
1) sounds like heat build up inside the chassis. Check if the surface around the LCD feels extra warm.
2) makes no diff about others. The K is touchy about consistent power.
A UPS plus a battery backup is highly recommended. It could save your K, one day, prevent a surge. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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Falcon2e Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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I think you should seriously consider using a UPS. Just because “no one else on stage has had any power surge issues” doesn’t mean you’re OK. They are not playing a Kronos. A small UPS unit is not terribly expensive.
As for what mode you’re in on shut down should NOT make any difference IMO.
Sorry Greg, I guess we were responding at the same time. _________________ Kronos2-61..(2) Triton Classic, Nord Stage 2, Previously owned lots of other gear dating back to the 70’s. |
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dphil5163
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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So, is there a UPS you could recommend? They come in many VA/W configurations. |
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Falcon2e Platinum Member
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Drummond Junior Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Open it and reseat the memory module(s) and re-tight all cables connections. Some will get loose over time. _________________ Korg Kronos 88 (288gb+3gb), Korg Kronos X 61, Alesis Fusion 6HD (60gb+384mb), Hammond XK1c, Moog Slim Phatty, Behringer Model D, Access Virus B, Oberheim Matrix 1000, Novation X-Station 61, Korg Trinity Pro (with Solo-Tri), Compac Univox II, Casio MT600 and PT82. |
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Drummond. Also try disconnecting any peripherals you have, such as USB devices and maybe even all of your control pedals if you are using any. Try to boot up in the simplest configuration you can and then work from there. _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
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dphil5163
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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THANKS for the UPS recommendation and the advice on reseating the memory. I'm sure I can find directions for reseating the memory somewhere! I'll let you know how it goes. |
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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If you have ever done it on a PC, it is pretty much the same. If you don't have any computer experience, search YouTube and I'm sure you can find something. _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
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