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tomyl Junior Member
Joined: 25 Aug 2016 Posts: 96 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 3:16 pm Post subject: Pa1000 - Not enough memory for PCM samples |
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Hello All,
when I load some user sounds ( USER01.PCG ) in Pa1000 , I get the following warning " Load Sound fails: not enough memory for PCM samples".. How to deal with this error? Is sound memory expansion possible in Pa1000?
Any thoughts?
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Reuben Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 1613 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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It is my understanding that the PA1000 can compress user samples which will effectively double your Ram.
On my Pa3x its done like this so probably the same on the 1000.
After backing up, go into Sound Mode, press Record button, go to drop down menu and choose compress all samples.
If you load some more sets that use Ram sounds then do the procedure again.
(It will compress any new uncompressed samples).
You exit by using the drop down menu, Exit from Record, Yes. _________________ Free SoundFonts: https://sites.google.com/site/soundfonts4u/
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bad_santa
Joined: 09 Sep 2016 Posts: 49
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 7:42 am Post subject: Re: Pa1000 - Not enough memory for PCM samples |
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tomyl wrote: | " Load Sound fails: not enough memory for PCM samples", |
your sampling RAM memory is full. You have to delete your RAM, but don't forget to make your backup.
...or you delete only unused samples/drumkits to make more memory available. But it is not so trivial without dedicated software like PA Manager. |
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tomyl Junior Member
Joined: 25 Aug 2016 Posts: 96 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thank both for your advices..
I don't know how to delete the RAM. Is there a way we can expand the memory in Pa1000? |
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Reuben Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 1613 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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If you have backed up everything (Save All, All ticked) then you can safely delete all Ram multisamples and then load only the ones you need.
To delete, Sound Mode, Record button, drop down menu, choose delete, delete all multisamples. Exit from record.
Now load what you want and compress it if necessary as described earlier. _________________ Free SoundFonts: https://sites.google.com/site/soundfonts4u/
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tomyl Junior Member
Joined: 25 Aug 2016 Posts: 96 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Hi Reuben, Thank you so much..
Side question.. can you help please??
How can we reduce the volume of a particular sound ? Is it possible in the Sound Edit ? I have some user sounds which has very high volume and wanted to reduce it , is there a way we can edit an individual sound to reduce its volume level. ( I am not talking about changing Upper1/3 volume or balance knobs but editing sound individually) |
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Reuben Platinum Member
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Yes you can.
Go into Sound Mode and have your sound selected.
Press Menu button, Amp.
The sound will be made up of a number of oscillators indicated by the numbers running down the right-hand-side of the screen and you need to reduce the Amp level in the top-left corner for each oscillator.
To preserve the mix you need to reduce the amp levels on a percentage or proportional basis - this is easier than it sounds.
So lets say Oscillator 1 has 100 amp level and Oscillator 2 has 80 and you want to reduce the volume by 20% then take Osc 1 down 20 to 80 (100 x 80%) and oscillator 2 down 16 to 64 (80 x 80%). Do this for all the Oscillators.
You select the Oscillators by touching the numbers running down the right-hand side.
You change the amp value either by touching it twice and typing the new value or touching it once and twirling the value wheel.
Finally select the drop down menu and Write your changes.
Before you Save/Write you can compare your changes to the original sound by using the drop down menu and selecting Compare.
Uncheck Compare to go back to your changes. _________________ Free SoundFonts: https://sites.google.com/site/soundfonts4u/
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tomyl Junior Member
Joined: 25 Aug 2016 Posts: 96 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Awesome.. Great help..
I will try out.
Thanks again. |
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ime95mos Junior Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Where can one see how much of the RAM that is available for samples? |
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siebenhirter Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 1844
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:57 pm Post subject: Pa1000 - |
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ime95mos wrote: | Where can one see how much of the RAM that is available for samples? |
Go to the Sampling > Info page > in the Sampling area to get information on the number of samples, drum samples and multisamples and available memory. _________________ kind regards
- siebenhirter, austria -
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MusicLover400 Junior Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2020 Posts: 58 Location: California USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:28 pm Post subject: RAM memory managment |
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I have loaded style,sounds and drumkits from multiple sets on my PA1000
I am running out of user banks for the sounds etc,
Is there a way we can find out what samples and drumkits are used in style?
So then
I can delete the unused ones to free up space. Thanks |
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siebenhirter Platinum Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: RAM memory managment |
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MusicLover400 wrote: | I have loaded style,sounds and drumkits from multiple sets on my PA1000 I am running out of user banks for the sounds etc, Is there a way we can find out what samples and drumkits are used in style?
So then I can delete the unused ones to free up space. Thanks |
There is a command that deletes only samples not yet assigned to any Multisample or Drum Kit.
To do so, choose the Delete command from the Page menu in sample edititing section to open the Delete Sample dialog, where you select the option "Not assigned to any Multisample/Drumkit" and touch OK to confirm. _________________ kind regards
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MusicLover400 Junior Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2020 Posts: 58 Location: California USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: RAM memory managment |
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There is a command that deletes only samples not yet assigned to any Multisample or Drum Kit.
To do so, choose the Delete command from the Page menu in sample edititing section to open the Delete Sample dialog, where you select the option "Not assigned to any Multisample/Drumkit" and touch OK to confirm.[/quote]
Thank you for quick reply. appreciated.
Regards, |
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MusicLover400 Junior Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2020 Posts: 58 Location: California USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:28 pm Post subject: Pa1000 Not enough memory for PCM files |
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Siebenhirter,
I deleted the unused samples as you suggested, but didn't free up any
memory. I was wondering if I delete the styles that I don't use, will the system delete the related samples and multisamples too? or just the style and leave the samples on the memory?
Is there a way to find out what sample and multisamples belong to what
sound stored in the user sound banks?
Regards
Al Akans |
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siebenhirter Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Pa1000 Not enough memory for PCM files |
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MusicLover400 wrote: | .. will the system delete the related samples and multisamples too .. |
Just the styles - but user-sounds/-multisamples/-samples are not deleted with its related musical-resources (styles, kbdsets) _________________ kind regards
- siebenhirter, austria -
Interesting facts about styles and stylePlayer functions can be found at http: www.elmarherz.de |
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