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biggrime Senior Member
Joined: 04 Jul 2009 Posts: 408 Location: Richmond, Virginia
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:19 pm Post subject: All kronos has phasing issues? |
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A guy commented on YouTube that all Korg keyboards has phasing issues including a Kronos. I will put the link to the video below so you can see the comment yourself. Basically says he has been playing live shows and creating sound patches for Korg Roland and Yamaha. And many others have complained about Korg keyboards having no low end and phasing issues. A lot of people end up having to use a lot of EQ and so compression to try to fix the problem. I know there are trolls out there but has anyone else found this to be a problem?
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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No problems here.
Maybe this is obvious- Kronos is not a preset keyboard.
I don't gig but I record up to 16 midi tracks , mixing various instruments
on every song. Applying FX, etc. Its no big deal to me.
I don't mind opinions. I read them but can decide on my own what works for me.
as long as you are happy with Kronos, its piano sounds, hammond, thats what matters. Other folks are entitled to their opinion, etc. This is zen- " 2 seemingly opposite opinions can be equally true "
And context is everything. The way I approach music production is different than the fellow on youTube. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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Liviou2004 Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2017 Posts: 1150 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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I've used Korg keyboards for 40 years now !! From Ms-20, Minikorg 700, Delta, T1, Wavestation, etc..... and today the Kronos.
I must say I've never noticed any problems like that, nor heard from other musicians.
I absolutely agree with Greg. |
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Derek Cook Approved Merchant
Joined: 20 Jul 2014 Posts: 1279 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with the replies as well. The Kronos can sound huge (as well as delicate). It may be preference. Yamaha synths have a very strident sound character very different from Korg, which is why I like to have both. _________________ Derek Cook - Java Developer
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geoelectro Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2012 Posts: 1038 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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He may be referring to stereo vs. mono. Taking a stereo sound and combining it for mono can sound bad. A lot of live performance is constricted to mono due to the house PA etc. If that’s the insinuation, it would be the same for any keyboard in the same situation. That is if the stereo sound is the same. It’s possible to create a stereo sound that plays well in mono. I have the good fortune to play live in stereo with stereo in-ear monitoring. However, I recently played with a mono system and it was bad. All my sounds are stereo and forcing them into mono does create artifacts like phasing or frequency cancellation. It’s not a limitation of the keyboard, but of the source sounds.
I’ve found that only using one side of the stereo signal for mono actually sounds better than forcing both channels together. At least as long as there aren’t sounds that only play in one channel like panned drums.
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burningbusch Approved Merchant
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1203 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Don't waste time on this. The guy is trying to make a case based on ZERO objective analysis, just his opinion which is lacking. Nothing to see here.
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LewTheKeyboardGuy Junior Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2018 Posts: 82 Location: North Wales. UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Yep, not to do with the kronos, it's issues surrounding the PA / mixing system etc, hence the beautiful function on most live consoles called Flip / inverse phase. used primarily for drum mics, etc but also used where line sources are a bit out of wack. any sound engineer at some point in their life has come across this, just a case of adapting to it or accepting it. that's what happens with mono sources against stereo signals as well. |
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KK Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2016 Posts: 1422
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | All kronos has phasing issues?
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Completely false. Troll garbage.
Next question ? |
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Derek Cook Approved Merchant
Joined: 20 Jul 2014 Posts: 1279 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:00 am Post subject: |
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I agree with the replies as well. The Kronos can sound huge (as well as delicate). It may be preference. Yamaha synths have a very strident sound character very different from Korg, which is why I like to have both. _________________ Derek Cook - Java Developer
Follow kronos.factory development and submit ideas over at the kronos.factory Trello Board
My Echoes Music Website
My Carreg Ddu Music Website |
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SeedyLee Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 1370 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:26 am Post subject: |
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I’ve heard that Fords can combust if driven under 80 mph. _________________ Current Equipment:
Korg Kronos 2 88, Reface CS, Roland JV-1080, TE OP1, Moog Subsequent 37, Korg ARP Odyssey, Allen & Heath Zed 18, Adam F5, MOTU MIDI Express XT, Lexicon MX200 & MPX1, Yamaha QY700, Yamaha AW16G, Tascam DP008ex, Zoom H6, Organelle, Roland J6 & JU06A
Previous: Triton LE 61/Sampling/64MB/4GB SCSI, MS2000BR, Kronos 1 61, Monotribe, NanoKontrol, NanoKeys, Kaossilator II, Casio HT3000, Roland VP-03, Reface DX, Novation Mininova, MPC One |
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Synthee Senior Member
Joined: 21 Apr 2013 Posts: 298 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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SeedyLee wrote: | I’ve heard that Fords can combust if driven under 80 mph. |
And Kronos can explode if the fans turned off. _________________ Korg Kronos 2 88 ; The River ; Cubase 10.5 Pro ; PC Win 10 |
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