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biggrime · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:19 pm Post subject: All kronos has phasing issues?

A guy commented on YouTube that all Korg keyboards has phasing issues including a Kronos. I will put the link to the video below so you can see the comment yourself. Basically says he has been playing live shows and creating sound patches for Korg Roland and Yamaha. And many others have complained about Korg keyboards having no low end and phasing issues. A lot of people end up having to use a lot of EQ and so compression to try to fix the problem. I know there are trolls out there but has anyone else found this to be a problem?

https://youtu.be/UfoqbE-tR0g
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GregC · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:05 pm Post subject:

No problems here.

Maybe this is obvious- Kronos is not a preset keyboard.

I don't gig but I record up to 16 midi tracks , mixing various instruments
on every song. Applying FX, etc. Its no big deal to me.

I don't mind opinions. I read them but can decide on my own what works for me.

as long as you are happy with Kronos, its piano sounds, hammond, thats what matters. Other folks are entitled to their opinion, etc. This is zen- " 2 seemingly opposite opinions can be equally true "

And context is everything. The way I approach music production is different than the fellow on youTube.
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Liviou2004 · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:11 pm Post subject:

I've used Korg keyboards for 40 years now !! From Ms-20, Minikorg 700, Delta, T1, Wavestation, etc..... and today the Kronos.
I must say I've never noticed any problems like that, nor heard from other musicians.

I absolutely agree with Greg.

Derek Cook · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:36 pm Post subject:

I agree with the replies as well. The Kronos can sound huge (as well as delicate). It may be preference. Yamaha synths have a very strident sound character very different from Korg, which is why I like to have both.
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geoelectro · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:32 pm Post subject:

He may be referring to stereo vs. mono. Taking a stereo sound and combining it for mono can sound bad. A lot of live performance is constricted to mono due to the house PA etc. If that’s the insinuation, it would be the same for any keyboard in the same situation. That is if the stereo sound is the same. It’s possible to create a stereo sound that plays well in mono. I have the good fortune to play live in stereo with stereo in-ear monitoring. However, I recently played with a mono system and it was bad. All my sounds are stereo and forcing them into mono does create artifacts like phasing or frequency cancellation. It’s not a limitation of the keyboard, but of the source sounds.

I’ve found that only using one side of the stereo signal for mono actually sounds better than forcing both channels together. At least as long as there aren’t sounds that only play in one channel like panned drums.

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burningbusch · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:02 pm Post subject:

Don't waste time on this. The guy is trying to make a case based on ZERO objective analysis, just his opinion which is lacking. Nothing to see here.

Busch.
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LewTheKeyboardGuy · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:21 am Post subject:

Yep, not to do with the kronos, it's issues surrounding the PA / mixing system etc, hence the beautiful function on most live consoles called Flip / inverse phase. used primarily for drum mics, etc but also used where line sources are a bit out of wack. any sound engineer at some point in their life has come across this, just a case of adapting to it or accepting it. that's what happens with mono sources against stereo signals as well.

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Derek Cook · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:00 am Post subject:

I agree with the replies as well. The Kronos can sound huge (as well as delicate). It may be preference. Yamaha synths have a very strident sound character very different from Korg, which is why I like to have both.
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SeedyLee · Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:26 am Post subject:

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Synthee · Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:34 pm Post subject: