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takis46



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:16 am    Post subject: Problems,problems and problems... Reply with quote

When I decided to buy PA-1000, I was impressed by the good critics I was reading on the media. 5/5 stars and nice wording everywhere. Now that I have it, and slowly the dust of enthusiasm is sitting down, I am left with some annoying problems. Apart from the low recording level coming out of the (...volume controlled) outputs, I now deal with problematic fillings... I will give you an example: I am playing-singing "Oh mammy-blue" at POP/SLOW POP style. After finishing the first part of the verse, its time to bridge the refrain. Therefore, I have to move from drums 2 to 3 via a fill-in. I press 3 and the PA does an ugly double step of the rhythm, like it loses the meter! I tried different timings of pressing 3, but still it is ugly! I expected the software to count and match, performing a nice fill-in... but NO! An ugly double step is what I get... Now I start to have second thoughts about my choice... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Problems,problems and problems... Reply with quote

takis46 wrote:
I press 3 and the PA does an ugly double step of the rhythm, like it loses the meter! I tried different timings ...

Τάκη , if you're talking about custom styles , you always hear what has been "written" in fills , if creator made an ugly fill ,
then you will hear an ugly fill ...
In my commercial development for Pa1000 (Greek & Producer editions) all are working like a charm like in previous Pa3X & Pa4X ,
therefore there is no matter of Pa model but the fact of midi events written in that fill that might have desination of a bouble
tempo pattern or whatever.
Also there are many settings in Record mode like "next measure" , immediately , etc , where a fill or a Var will behave after recalling it ,
and this is almost the same for all PaSeries , so read advanced edit manual of how to adapt fills & vars according to your needs !

Hope this helps
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takis46



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your kind comment. I am not referring to personally customized styles, but to the styles embedded by the factory. I will put it simple, what I would like to have is the ability to press the fill button anytime I want, then expect the software to count the beat and bridge to the next session. A smooth transition without "hiccups"! In the specific pop style, only variations 3-4 have the drum, which is good since I need it to start halfway of the song. So, being at var2, I press var3 to start the drum... And I get a "hiccup", which also affects the accompaniment (guitar, piano,etc). For now I correct the problem by editing the sound afterwards on my computer, but this should not be the case... Maybe I do something wrong, I do not know, but surely I cannot re-write the factory styles...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

takis46 wrote:
Maybe I do something wrong, I do not know, but surely I cannot re-write the factory styles...

Yes you can / Global / Unprotect Factory box , but I don't recommend it , you'd better edit style to fit it to your needs
since all you need are edditable and then save it at User possition.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Σας ευχαριστώ πολύ! Thank you, in both languages.. I will try to make a style of my own... A lot of things are different in this arranger, than my Yamaha. I also struggle with weird behavior of sax, brass and some other organs, that they seem to occasionally lag when I play fast. Not always, mostly when I play legato, I get lags and very weird cutoffs or bends. I suppose that I have to set it up to suit my needs, disable some automatic features, that is I have to read the thousand page manual... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

takis46 wrote:
I also struggle with weird behavior of sax, brass and some other organs, that they seem
to occasionally lag when I play fast. Not always, mostly when I play legato, I get lags and very weird cutoffs or bends

Nothing is actually weird ... Pa1000 use DNC2 technology where multiple legato switches activate legato & glissando articulations of Sax ,
that you should be aware from Tyros.
If you are not comfort to adapt your playing technique according to those features , do not use "DNC" saxophones or find one that
all glissando articulations are assigned only at +-Y & Switches.
PaSeries are the only Korg keyboards (unlike Kronos & Oasys) that have those advanced legato features that makes all
natural instruments sound very realistic and I hardly managed to develop and use those in Kronos with tricky ways using Karma
programming in WavesArt Kronos libraries ! Wink
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