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The Saxophones Exs 177 finally released !
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SoundsOfPlanet
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregC wrote:
I am a fan of this EXS

I am working on an original which screams for a great sax part.

Without a doubt SOP saxes are the way to go. Realism, punch, articulation , expressiveness, growl, breath, its all there.


GregC – thanks a lot for your comment. For me the most important thing in all this hard work is the final satisfied user.
Developing the EXs sound library is a tedious process, which takes from several even up to dozen or so months. To create this particular library - EXs 177, I invited a few musicians. As I found out later, sound of saxophone is affected and shaped not only by just an instrument as such, but also by the musician, grade of mouthpiece and even the time of saxophone playing – warmed up instrument, after one hour of play or longer, sound much better. After processing of recorded material and programming sounds on Kronos, I put a lot of effort to do it the way to avoid any undue interference into original sound /sample, so not to loose the naturalness, authenticity in final effect as well as to preserve that kind of unpredictability that is so important in sound of that unique instrument as saxophone. Therefore I am very glad, that my library meets the requirements of professional musicians. Thanks a lot !


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: The Saxophones Exs 177 finally released ! Reply with quote

[quote="VIDEO DEMO 1





VIDEO DEMO 2






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Sounds of Planet[/quote]

The Baker Street Demo has a great sound, but the pitch bends are not realistic. That's the hardest part of recording saxophones. In my opinion, pitch bends on a sax should never be more than a quarter step. I work hard to make my sax parts sound realistic.

Here is an example. Let me know what you think:

https://soundcloud.com/user-831858763/early-morning-strangers

The sax parts are at the 1:29 2:37 and 3:01 marks
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am totally with you on having realistic sax parts.

We are going to run into limits using a keyboard + joy stick

I would prefer going to the original Baker St to see
how the sax is played:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm8uxthkruk

Bottom line, with that ' note bend', the sax player
calls it a scoop [?} at 3:08

Its tricky to nail it using the Joystick. The standard
note bend range is 2 notes [ many refer to semi tones]

I agree - it sounds too bendy in SOP's demo of Baker St.
But thats not due to the sample- its the keyboard player
likely using Joystick + Y or -Y

Possibly using ribbon would be more realistic- I haven't
tried that.

Bottom line, IMO, the ROLI controller is giving us
more realistic expression than a keyboard. ROLI
is on my shopping list since I enjoy acoustic instrument
realism.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I do my sax parts, I record it with no scoops (or I step record it) then add all of the pitch bends in manually and adjust the attack and everything manually. I'd like to think they turn out OK
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: The Saxophones Exs 177 finally released ! Reply with quote

Wagnergrad96 wrote:
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Here is an example. Let me know what you think:

https://soundcloud.com/user-831858763/early-morning-strangers

The sax parts are at the 1:29 2:37 and 3:01 marks


Your sax work is tasteful. I also prefer slight bends which add to realism.

Your mixes are perfect to my ear and the sax parts are convincing.
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