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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:46 am    Post subject: Your Practical use of Karma Reply with quote

I like Karma. Its fun to experiment, jam around , create some new ideas, etc.

I consider that casual use. Nothing wrong with having fun.

Are you taking your knowledge and use of Karma further ?

Practical to me, is to help song writing or band performance.
Or maybe some type of training ? Or some sound development for commercial purpose ?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Greg,
Your question about Karma with the Kronos makes me remember of the race sequence in the Steven Spielberg's movie "Ready Player 1". The winner of the race goes backward !!! Karma is very useful in the way that it makes us think musically in unexpected directions. Sometimes it works, sometimes not but always it makes us being more curious wth a wider angle of view for other experimental music forms. Idea
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kronoSphere wrote:
Hello Greg,
Your question about Karma with the Kronos makes me remember of the race sequence in the Steven Spielberg's movie "Ready Player 1". The winner of the race goes backward !!! Karma is very useful in the way that it makes us think musically in unexpected directions. Sometimes it works, sometimes not but always it makes us being more curious wth a wider angle of view for other experimental music forms. Idea


Good to hear from you. Very funny example.

I like your point, that Karma opens up musical avenues we might not think of.

Kay is an uber talented keyboardist and I think that contributed to Karma.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Your Practical use of Karma Reply with quote

GregC wrote:
I like Karma. Its fun to experiment, jam around , create some new ideas, etc.

I consider that casual use. Nothing wrong with having fun.

Are you taking your knowledge and use of Karma further ?

Practical to me, is to help song writing or band performance.
Or maybe some type of training ?

Or some sound development for commercial purpose ?


Used karma for both the bass line and the synthetic appeggiator
In a mainstream commercial trax
For a New York runway event a while ago.
VIDEO LINK. Below

https://vimeo.com/267959638




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1.VIDEO POP : https://vimeo.com/album/5005360
2.VIDEO POP : https://vimeo.com/album/4798784



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Your Practical use of Karma Reply with quote

NETWORK1 wrote:
GregC wrote:
I like Karma. Its fun to experiment, jam around , create some new ideas, etc.

I consider that casual use. Nothing wrong with having fun.

Are you taking your knowledge and use of Karma further ?

Practical to me, is to help song writing or band performance.
Or maybe some type of training ?

Or some sound development for commercial purpose ?


Used karma for both the bass line and the synthetic appeggiator
In a mainstream commercial trax
For a New York runway event a while ago.
VIDEO LINK. Below

https://vimeo.com/267959638

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Nice work !
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Your Practical use of Karma Reply with quote

GregC wrote:
NETWORK1 wrote:
GregC wrote:
I like Karma. Its fun to experiment, jam around , create some new ideas, etc.

I consider that casual use. Nothing wrong with having fun.

Are you taking your knowledge and use of Karma further ?

Practical to me, is to help song writing or band performance.
Or maybe some type of training ?

Or some sound development for commercial purpose ?


Used karma for both the bass line and the synthetic appeggiator
In a mainstream commercial trax
For a New York runway event a while ago.
VIDEO LINK. Below

https://vimeo.com/267959638

.


Nice work !


thanx
That Trax started out with 2 elements
1.Bass
2.Arpeggiator
both activated by Karma.
Simple Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find Karma invaluable, but I use it in a rather unorthodox way. I use it strictly to change between programs or combinations, including splits and layers, all without any cutoff of sound. I also find it much easier to use the Karma scene buttons to change sounds rather than the touchscreen.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using "fully KARMA-fied" combis will take your music creativity to exponential levels. There is just so much to work with. If, however, you are needing to design/craft your own KARMA-fied combination, let me tell you from my own experience designing collections for Karma Lab, you better be prepared to invest a good amount of time. Basically, it's like playing chess on mega levels because KARMA technology is extremely deep with limitless...and I do mean limitless possibilities. When you're done tweaking and polishing your combi, you end up with a fully orchestrated tool for composition...your own composition. If however, you don't have the time or inclination to craft your own fully KARMA-fied combi, then look to third-party producers such as Karma Lab https://www.karma-lab.com/main.html?p=index.html
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EJ2 wrote:
Using "fully KARMA-fied" combis will take your music creativity to exponential levels. There is just so much to work with. If, however, you are needing to design/craft your own KARMA-fied combination, let me tell you from my own experience designing collections for Karma Lab, you better be prepared to invest a good amount of time. Basically, it's like playing chess on mega levels because

KARMA technology is extremely deep

with limitless...and I do mean limitless possibilities. When you're done tweaking and polishing your combi, you end up with a fully orchestrated tool for composition...your own composition. If however, you don't have the time or inclination to craft your own fully KARMA-fied combi, then look to third-party producers such as Karma Lab https://www.karma-lab.com/main.html?p=index.html



Yes in my opinion its "TOO Deep"
They should have made it easier
for producers to utilize,with 2 options :

1. : A Basic interface
2. : An Advanced Interface


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EJ2 wrote:
Using "fully KARMA-fied" combis will take your music creativity to exponential levels. There is just so much to work with. If, however, you are needing to design/craft your own KARMA-fied combination, let me tell you from my own experience designing collections for Karma Lab, you better be prepared to invest a good amount of time. Basically, it's like playing chess on mega levels because KARMA technology is extremely deep with limitless...and I do mean limitless possibilities. When you're done tweaking and polishing your combi, you end up with a fully orchestrated tool for composition...your own composition. If however, you don't have the time or inclination to craft your own fully KARMA-fied combi, then look to third-party producers such as Karma Lab https://www.karma-lab.com/main.html?p=index.html


Catalyst Volume 2 - “Blast of Inspiration!”
New Release Aug 2015

This marks 3 yrs since the last sound set for Kronos.

Do you have plans or ETA for something new ?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am actually in a process of deleting most preloaded COMBIS with KARMA ( with a few exceptions).
I have no use of it. it was fun for a week or two. Now I am bored ( or not my cup of tea) after having Kronos 2 for a month.
I am extracting only parts ( mostly arpeggios ) that can have a real use to me, and re-saving them. As of now there are 12 Combis already gone for good.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drama1 wrote:
I find Karma invaluable, but I use it in a rather unorthodox way. I use it strictly to change between programs or combinations, including splits and layers, all without any cutoff of sound. I also find it much easier to use the Karma scene buttons to change sounds rather than the touchscreen.


thats a cool idea

I will take a button over a few pecks on the LCD

Is your approach to help out on gigs ? Live performance ?
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Poseidon wrote:
I am actually in a process of deleting most preloaded COMBIS with KARMA ( with a few exceptions).
I have no use of it. it was fun for a week or two. Now I am bored ( or not my cup of tea) after having Kronos 2 for a month.
I am extracting only parts ( mostly arpeggios ) that can have a real use to me, and re-saving them. As of now there are 12 Combis already gone for good.


Many combis have 4 modules running which makes for a busy sound.

Stephen explained why and I get it.

As you might know, you can click off Karma in Global
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GregC wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
I am actually in a process of deleting most preloaded COMBIS with KARMA ( with a few exceptions).
I have no use of it. it was fun for a week or two. Now I am bored ( or not my cup of tea) after having Kronos 2 for a month.
I am extracting only parts ( mostly arpeggios ) that can have a real use to me, and re-saving them. As of now there are 12 Combis already gone for good.


Many combis have 4 modules running which makes for a busy sound.

Stephen explained why and I get it.

As you might know, you can click off Karma in Global


Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregC wrote:
EJ2 wrote:
Using "fully KARMA-fied" combis will take your music creativity to exponential levels. There is just so much to work with. If, however, you are needing to design/craft your own KARMA-fied combination, let me tell you from my own experience designing collections for Karma Lab, you better be prepared to invest a good amount of time. Basically, it's like playing chess on mega levels because KARMA technology is extremely deep with limitless...and I do mean limitless possibilities. When you're done tweaking and polishing your combi, you end up with a fully orchestrated tool for composition...your own composition. If however, you don't have the time or inclination to craft your own fully KARMA-fied combi, then look to third-party producers such as Karma Lab https://www.karma-lab.com/main.html?p=index.html


Catalyst Volume 2 - “Blast of Inspiration!”
New Release Aug 2015

This marks 3 yrs since the last sound set for Kronos.

Do you have plans or ETA for something new ?


Hi Greg,
Yes, we have taken a long break from combi development. I have been working (slowly) on additional combis for the Catalyst line. However, family emergencies, deaths of loved ones, other issues have interfered with the type of concentration needed to produce a high quality product. Thanks for asking.
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CATALYST v 1 Combi Explosion for KRONOS, OASYS, M3, & K-M50: http://www.karma-lab.com/sounds/catalyst1.html
CHEMISTRY 3, a Groove Injection for Your Karma: http://www.karma-lab.com/sounds/chem3.html
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