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[siebenhirter]

Hello,

as has been pointed out several times, the missing Fill-Buttons of the Pa1000 are a step backwards in the development of the styleplayer. But at least you can trigger the Fill-ins remotely via MIDI-PrgChg-Messages 87/88/89/90 on ControlChannel.

Previous models had the Fill-in buttons also in entry-level models (like Pa500). Additionally every Fill-in-Button could be programmed with "Fill-Mode" of each individual style separately in such a way, that triggering fill-in automatically played Fill and then redirected to the pre-programmed variation. This possibility of individual scheduling of each style, which has been in place for more than ten years, has not been offered by any other arranger keyboard to this day and was obviously "forgotten" in the last series.

For this reason, this "forgotten" feature - which really is rich in variation and allows variable use of the styleplayer - was pondered in an OS-Update for the Pa4x. You will find that on page 4 of Pa4X_Upgrade_Manual_V2_0_En.pdf:
****** "Fill/The Fill Mode parameter allows for automatically selecting a Variation when pressing a FILL/BREAK button" ******

Again Korg has been forgot to carry out this update for Pa1000? Since with missing fill-buttons with Pa1000 in any case you have the shortcoming to use a controller (FCB1010, NanoControl ..), an OS-Update with Fill-Mode also for Pa1000 is indispensable. That is because you should at least have the styleplayers functionality of previous entry-level Pa-models we had since years.
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Korg is therefore asked to carry out an OS update with Fill-Mode - and I ask Pa1000 users to support me with this request by intervening at KORG!

PS: Of course applies to all models of the last series
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kind regards
- siebenhirter, austria -

Interesting facts about styles and stylePlayer functions can be found at http: www.elmarherz.de

[xavierfrancis]

I agree with you Siebenhirter

I would also like to add another thing to this fill ins...

The earlier KORG keyboards had a Fill-In loop feature which would get triggered by holding the fill-in button for more than a second(long-press) and the fill-in would be looped and played like another variation.

This was very usefull and could be used as 5th and a 6th variation to that already 1-4 variations available. This would suit to the bridge portion of a song.

But the PA 700 doesn't have this feature. So sad that KORG decided to remove this such a useful feature and again 'the missing Fill-Buttons of the Pa1000 are a step backwards in the development of the styleplayer'.

[Biggles]

Have you raised your issue directly with Korg?
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Biggles
Lancashire, UK

[B.Safe]

On the PA1000 you can trigger a fill with the 2-button sequence and then press the desired variation. This is much more flexible than the solution that was implemented on previous PA series.

Also, by pressing twice on a Fill (with the 2-button sequence), Break, Intro or End, the element loops until the next variation selection.

[Biggles]

[siebenhirter]

[Biggles]

If you have contacted Korg on each occasion that you have raised concerns about the operating system and they have not yet actioned any or a single reported item then that is Korg.

It took them 18 months to get Songbook Editor amended, so that it can be used with the 1000 and 700, updates for the 700 only occur every six months.

My Kross 2 is still awaiting content to be available 15 months after I bought mine.

Its the Korg way, have patience or sell your Korg gear and buy Yamaha.
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Biggles
Lancashire, UK

[siebenhirter]

Hello Biggles,

you really are very ambivalent - first you believe one pretends mistake in the Pa keyboard only, as long as is not confirmed by Korg, however, then you lament that Korg is too slow to react to it.

Be sure - I do not accept you as commander to determine whether here in forum or with Korg directly it is to discuss about inadequacy.

I also myself am able to judge what is wrong with my keyboard.
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[Biggles]

Discussions are important but yours solely are pointing out a limitation that you see in the operating system, I see very little if any contribution from you in a thread that you have not created that is positive to help another user.

Yes Korg are slow to react, but if you did as has been suggested and join in with the live Webinar where you could post your question directly to Korg staff then you would get a direct response.

I see very little point in continually raising the limitations you see in the operating system if you are not prepared to do anything about it. If you do contact Korg then why not tell us that, then why not also tell us about their response?
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Biggles
Lancashire, UK

[siebenhirter]

[B.Safe]

[siebenhirter]

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[siebenhirter]

As usual your statements are ridiculous - unobjective and uselessly.

[B.Safe]