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hans1966 Senior Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2015 Posts: 261 Location: Cali- Colombia
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Kokepan, thank you very much for your detailed response. regards _________________ Hans
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Koekepan Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Posts: 616
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Bachus: just to be clear, I am quite comfortable using computers as well (sunvox is my favourite software for the purpose, but not the only choice). My problem with them in the workflow is when shifting from hardware to computer or vice versa.
Now, if Krome 2 were to show up with Gadget embedded for the sound engines, I would definitely want some of that action. |
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3126
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Koekepan wrote: | Bachus: just to be clear, I am quite comfortable using computers as well (sunvox is my favourite software for the purpose, but not the only choice). My problem with them in the workflow is when shifting from hardware to computer or vice versa.
Now, if Krome 2 were to show up with Gadget embedded for the sound engines, I would definitely want some of that action. |
There is no reason to embed them,
As long as there is full workflow integration between the 2 devices..
MEaning a very natural way to controll the gadgets and sequencer from the keyboard, as well as the keyboard being a very low latency audio interface and mixer for the gadget sounds..
except for using the ipad screen, everything else will feel like the sounds and sequencer are actually in the keyboard.. _________________ Korg Kronos 2/88 , Genos, Mainstage3 +VSTsu, ipad pro, GSi Gemini, Roland Integra 7, Jupiter Xm, Yamaha motif XS rack, Ketron SD90.
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diegodure
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 11 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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The great power of the Korg lately is to continue betting on the WS, from an arranger to a sinte middle or low range, gives you all the options. That's why I criticize Roland and now Yamaha for killing the WS, for preserving the sequencers and trying to force us to external soft. The truth is that if I leave a Krome2 this remains a complete mid-range WS without limitations, at the same time that provides connectivity to these external applications, but does not fall into the subtraction of tools that have benefited users so much. |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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diegodure wrote: | The great power of the Korg lately is to continue betting on the WS, from an arranger to a sinte middle or low range, gives you all the options. That's why I criticize Roland and now Yamaha for killing the WS, for preserving the sequencers and trying to force us to external soft. The truth is that if I leave a Krome2 this remains a complete mid-range WS without limitations, at the same time that provides connectivity to these external applications, but does not fall into the subtraction of tools that have benefited users so much. |
I might be fighting the future.
But subtraction of expected tools is a bad idea for an expensive {+$1500) keyboard or W/s
Lets kick around the SEQ. Lets guess 20% of owners play with the SEQ .
It would be a mistake to piss off 20% of loyal owners who enjoy that feature/tool.
Its worth the extra $50 to include it in a successor product.
Kicking around a hypothetical here. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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Koekepan Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Posts: 616
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Agreed. In my view, the full-blown workstation is KORG's differentiating product at this point. Aside from Kurzweil, Akai Professional and (with some reservations) Casio it's a rare thing. Kurzweil hasn't been doing much new recently in that line, and Casio's still (rather unfairly) being treated as a toy company. Akai's offerings are somewhat specialised and idiosyncratic. |
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Heyjp
Joined: 25 Dec 2018 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Sweetwater and BHPhotoVideo showing Krome 61 as discontinued and not available. |
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3126
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Heyjp wrote: | Sweetwater and BHPhotoVideo showing Krome 61 as discontinued and not available. |
It will be interesting to see if Korg can deliver a competitor with the modx and the expected Roland FA replacement? _________________ Korg Kronos 2/88 , Genos, Mainstage3 +VSTsu, ipad pro, GSi Gemini, Roland Integra 7, Jupiter Xm, Yamaha motif XS rack, Ketron SD90.
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demonp Senior Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 415 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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If Korg wont move away from the terrible EDS or whatever this engine is there Will be no reason to upgrade any instrument to a new Korg synth. _________________ Gear: roland Juno-G, korg x5dr, Monologue, e-mu 0404
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Koekepan Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Posts: 616
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:51 am Post subject: |
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No reason, demonp? No reason whatsoever, in any dimension?
Brave words, those.
But aside from that, what's so terrible about EDS? It's a fairly standard, well-understood, flexible, efficient multisampling engine with incremental layer switching, automation and effects. What would you rather have? A virtual modular? If you think EDS is opaque, just wait until you have a crowd of customers whining about how they put in a VCO and can't hear anything.
But aside from that I can envision plenty of upgrades that build on EDS, and still make the platform stronger. For example, allow for a wavetable rather than just a sample. 4 digital oscillators rather than 2. Easy multisampling of sources.
Really, I think you're terribly overstating your case. |
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Sharp Site Admin
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 18197 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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demonp wrote: | If Korg wont move away from the terrible EDS or whatever this engine is there Will be no reason to upgrade any instrument to a new Korg synth. |
Don't like EDS?
That's surprising as it's quite an advanced sound engine. KORG are using EDS-X on their current Arrangers such as the Pa4X which is extremely advanced. It has something like 24 OSC's per sound.
Their EDS-X engine on arrangers also has RX and DNC technology which is mighty powerful. It's sort of like what Scripts do for Kontakt.
Regards
Sharp _________________
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Kronos2ison Full Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2017 Posts: 123
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Wow great catch.. Bye Bye Krome... It's about time. Hopefully the keyed is improved with the power of the Kronos. For $1299 to be price competitive to Yamaha.
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Sharp Site Admin
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 18197 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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KORG said on twitter that they are going to release something new at NAMM.
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Kronos2ison Full Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2017 Posts: 123
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:37 am Post subject: |
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2 weeks until Namm. Ive been enjoying my YAMAHA MODX6 . I always buy Korg Flagships since 1989 but this last delay had me buy a different brand. You know when you have the itch to buy something new. I hope what they are about to release blows me away to sell my Yamaha. I haven't turned on my Kronos in weeks. Lol
Sharp wrote: | KORG said on twitter that they are going to release something new at NAMM.
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kimu Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1133 Location: Italy,Milan
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