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[LewTheKeyboardGuy]

Hi folks,

new to the forum so please bear with me. I'm a long standing korg owner / user. for more years than I care to remember, going back to the M1, 01W, etc.

I recently took the plunge for studio and road use and purchased both a kronos 2 88 and kronos LS88, both of which I love. the LS is to go on the road with while the 2 stays home permanently set up.

I purchased some WD 256GB SSD's WD Blue) as I've used them before on other systems.

I had been reading articles on the forum regarding SSD upgrades but these articles are a bit out of date, especially with SSD recommendations.

now then, my plan was to install 2 x 256gb SSD drives on my kronos 2 88 and the same for the LS, so that drive 1 has sample data, drive 2 is purely recording and backup.

I had attempted to install a replacement SSD for drive 1 (to swap from the original SSD) however, as I tried to format the disk using the restore media, it hung and that was it., so, removed the new SSD and installed the original.

Installed the drive as backup and booted both machines with just the backup / recording SSD's fitted. all's ok.

Could anyone please advise me as to any workaround for this issue? Surely replacing the boot SSD could be done, physically it's doable, seems though that the software doesn't like the idea.

one note of interest. I noticed that though the board uses 2 x SATA lines, the OS considers them as IDE connections, dear god are we still in the stone age with linux?

Could anyone help me with this issue please? I'd much appreciate some help here.

As a bit of info, the reson behind wanting to install 2 x 256gb ssd's on 2 x kronos units is this, I no longer have a recording studio, this is due to dad passing away in December and Lloyds bank forcing me to close my studio down, sell assets, etc or mum and I be homeless. My old studio was protools HD based with tools I needed, now I've decided that the 2 kronos rigs are enough to cover what I need at home and on the road.. OK an odd method, but I'd rather the self contained route.

P.S: anyone got a korg D32XD for sale?

All the best

Lew

[AntonySharmman]

[SeedyLee]

Korg themselves recommend not replacing the original boot drive if avoidable. Instead, they recommend adding a second SSD. This is the route I took quite some time ago and it works really well.

If you're intent on replacing the boot drive and you're having problems reinstalling from the restore media, the only other option might be to clone the SSD from the old to the new via computer. You'll probably need to resize the partition and filesystem in the process to take advantage of the additional space.

I'm not sure why the restore media is having problems installing on the new drive though. Could be a number of issues, but as it doesn't present diagnostic output it's going to make troubleshooting difficult!
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[Liviou2004]

I do agree : although changing and replacing boot SSD can be done - and many succeed - keeping the original SSD adding a second SSD is far, far more easy and safe than creating a new boot ssd.
So, if I had a advice it would be to re-install your initial 60 GB boot SSD and simply add a second one (why not a 500 GB SSD il you need this capacity).

[LewTheKeyboardGuy]

Hi guys, thank you for your replies.

With response to AntonySharmman, the DVD drive in question is a new LG GP57EB40 Ultra Portable Slim DVD-RW - Black and for safety I used a Y cable to power from both USB ports of the kronos.

I have successfully installed 1 of the 250gb drives in each machine, though I do have to say I had to find out through personal experience how to gain access to the mainboard of the kronos 2-88 as a weighted action is much larger than the LS mechanism and there is a plate covering part of the mainboard which you unscrew to add the 2nd sata cable. that went fine.

In order for me to clone the factory SSD, can this be done on a mac or do I need a windows machine? if so, I'll struggle there as the only rig in my place is a mac running latest OS. so any thoughts would be a huge help.

I did come across a thread where users of the early kronos and kronos OS had issues with installing SSD's larger than 128gb but that was the 1st revision kronos / kronos X to my understanding and drives listed at the time are no longer available.

The reason behind the plan to upgrade the original SSD is this:

Based on working with protools systems and the basis behind handling streaming data, you don't record on the same drive as the OS / sample volumes as you slow the bus down for the sata port in question, this comes from many years working with systems that handle this degree of disk access. even SSD's in their blazing speeds can still have bottle necks when the SATA bus is reading / writing to the same drive.

So, the plan for both machines was to install 250gb ssd's as boot drives with the sample libraries / krs files, etc available, then use drive 2 for audio recording / project work. I've also noted that the maximum speed of the 60gb drive installed by default is slower in both read and write than the drives I work with today, however, if it's the case I have to stick to the 60gb drive, then ok fair enough.

If I were to run a version of linux via VirtualBox, then connect via USB the drive in question, then 1:1 clone from there and extend the last sectors you mentioned, would this work?

Sorry about this, Don't want to cause any headaches here but as I don't have a multitrack system for production anymore, I'm relying strictly on 2 kronos rigs, which by the way, having spent the last 2 days with, I'm in love with them, especially the LS.

lew

[AntonySharmman]

- The regular way to expand your Disks capacity for studio work is to install a second SSD of the required size that
suits you and easy way of all end-users and also use external USB media devices for your compositions like a fast
256 Gb USB 3 stick (with USB2 compatibility).
- The reason that I always use one large system SSD , is that as an Engineer I distrust all SSDs that you can never
be relied on them since 3 of my customers and one ASUS high quality SSD of my own Kronos were internally destroyed
with zero data recovery !
- From that moment I always use one only 256-500 Gb boot/system SSD in secondary SATA port of mobo and use an
extension/external SATA port on Kronos case that is connected to primary SATA port , and in case of failure of system
SSD , I place the cloned one in external SATA port and Kronos is booting from it , "saving" my gigging in 2 minutes
booting time with identical cloned SSD and continuing from that point ...
- I do not trust any Mac utilities not even Linux virtual machines for this complex cloning job of 5 Linux Ext2/3 SSD
partitions , so my advice is to use the guaranteed boot time application CloneZilla that computer distributors are cloning all
OS & System SSDs , in expert mode (you have to study interface) , and then re-partition/extend last EXt2 partition to
the last sector with any Mac utility that supports Linux.
The easy way to do it is to devote 40$ for a ready device to do the job like
https://www.inateck.com/inateck-fd2002-usb-3-0-hdd-docking-station-dock-klonen-fur-2-5-3-5-zoll-sataiiiiii.html

Hope this helps
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[Liviou2004]

Very interisting process, Anthony.

1°) I suppose you did a hole on the Kronos case, in order to get one Sata wire out ? Is that corect ?

2°) As the Kronos SSD is not a Windows system, and as the docking station you told about works on windows, does it work for cloning the SSD Kronos system ?

3°) As the Kronos factory SSD has a 60gb partition, how did you extend it to 250 (or 500gb) ? Did you use a sepcial soft tool ?

[AntonySharmman]

[Liviou2004]

Thank you Anthony for all these informations.

[LewTheKeyboardGuy]

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