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Oooooooook now we have a conspiracy theorist in the house. The volca bass, keys, kick, beats are now no longer analog? Haha
What about the modular? That's va too????
This?
Virtual Analogue.
Or would you think you're actually buying true down to the floor analogue for that price tag for that size all plastic extremely tiny knobs and no buttons on the step sequencer? No f*ck*ng way mate , in your dreams this would be true.
Volca analogue , another Korg joke seriously.
If you want pure analog stuff i recommend you look at 70's/80's subtractive synths. No FM oh and the size and cost of them .
Korg Prologue = VA
Korg MS20 (obviously not the small one) = Analog
Korg Monotron = VA
Korg Monotribe = VA
If you're looking for analog watch out for Roger Linn's stuff he's the one that can bring analog synths in our times but seriously most synths nowadays they're all VA's.
Old synths used lots of components to convert electricity into sound keep that in mind and that's why the Oscillators have some inconsistency in them. _________________
mmyeah, we know that. Korg marketed it as virtual analogue as well.
Travelinni wrote:
Being VA it's a great thing , I just hate the fact Korg's lying.
Nord Lead 2 is VA and it's an amazing synth too.
VA synths use DSP chips in order to emulate all the transistors and so forth much like VSTi's are programmed to generate sound through mathematical equations.
two conflicting things there. three if you include loathing of the Boutiques
first generations of VA don't emulate components, they run code representing
modules. it isn't as specific as individual components. Later VA like the Boutiques
purport to emulate component-level behaviour. as such they can be considered
2nd generation (or third) virtual analogue. Boutique are VA. plugins in a box
with a physical interface.
Travelinni wrote:
it's the button that triggers a blank note so the previous note holds up.
that's the Rest button. not the same as the Tie/Sustain. Rest is an empty step,
Tie/Sustain extends the previous note to the current step.
here, have a look at the TB303:
antto's n0nx0x requires a CPU replacement ('x0xlarge'), otherwise you'll most
probably be running Sokkos2 firmware -or maybe MarOS 1.5 which i haven't
tried. antto has reproduced original TB operation but it needed more
memory to get all the x0xb0x functionality in, so it needed a new CPU.
Travelinni wrote:
and remember the 303 can't sustain notes , is you want long notes set decay to max.
really? i'll have to try that. lol
so what do you think you get if you enter one note followed by 15 ties?
i promise you it isn't the same as entering one note followed by 15 rests.
ask antto if you're in doubt.
that's the Rest button. not the same as the Tie/Sustain. Rest is an empty step,
Tie/Sustain extends the previous note to the current step.
here, have a look at the TB303:
No , Rest extends the previous note to the current step.
Mate just use the Rest , there is no sustain in the 303.
If you want to sustain it you'll have to use a different synth and work same way as the tb303 does except push your ADSR Sustain max , no release but you'll lose the accent. _________________
see the black dot? that's a regular 16th note. the button with the white dot
has a crochet symbol with a legato/tie symbol. the next button is the rest.
i don't have a TB, but the bassbot works pretty much the same.
i don't remember the x0x too well right now, and didn't learn it as well. it
hasn't got the same amount of buttons there, so n0nx0x had to re-assign
what the x0x has.
back to your assumption that volcas are 'not analogue' because they use
smaller SMD components: how do you think things are manufactured these
days? what do you think Behringer are up to? you think that's VA/fake analogue too?
see the black dot? that's a regular 16th note. the button with the white dot
has a crochet symbol with a legato/tie symbol. the next button is the rest.
i don't have a TB, but the bassbot works pretty much the same.
i don't remember the x0x too well right now, and didn't learn it as well. it
hasn't got the same amount of buttons there, so n0nx0x had to re-assign
what the x0x has.
back to your assumption that volcas are 'not analogue' because they use
smaller SMD components: how do you think things are manufactured these
days? what do you think Behringer are up to? you think that's VA/fake analogue too?
anyway, i suspect this is a wind-up.
look man i don't need the manual for the 303 , i'm not stupid.
not gonna argue about this , the 303 has no sustain simple as that.
you asked you wanted to hold off a note without using slide and that's the only option. forget about having sustain on a 303 , u on drugs or something?
behringer is rubbish as everyone knows.
i'm not here trying to wind up anyone , it's as simple as that.
the volcas are virtual analogue , keep dreaming mate.
And if you want a real 303 to hold off longer notes prepare yourself for a devilfish mod and gfy.
i bet you're thinking : ''just because they're smaller components they're not analogue''.
I can read your mind like a book mate but look : if you want analogue you pay for it. You're not gonna get analogue in these f*ck*ng micromachines toys.
Here's my volca collection :
And consider yourself lucky.
For them to be analogue they would have to use the exact same components that made synths simply ... ANALOG!
And those components nowadays or don't come cheap or the manufaturer's don't produce them anymore so one way or another , just f*ck*ng deal with it. _________________
try this:
clear a pattern.
go to Pitch mode and enter a note. (i think if you don't, you'll get C anyway)
now go to Time mode, and press the button under the black dot once, then press the one with the white dot, say 7 times, now press the one with the line (rest)
8 times.
you'll get one long note for half the pattern, followed by silence for the other
half of the pattern. agreed?
so i call it 'tie'. some call it sustain - i don't know what the manual calls it.
sure, 'sustain' on an envelope is the sustain stage. that's different.
(wearily) you use pitch mode to enter notes, octave buttons to set the octaves.
your 2nd youtube demonstrates what i was talking about at 7.25:
Time mode, with Note, Tie, and Rest
both videos start off entering notes in Pitch Mode.
anyway, bet that was really boring and pointless for everybody.
have to leave it to the mods to clean up the mess.
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anyway, bet that was really boring and pointless for everybody.
have to leave it to the mods to clean up the mess.
sure it was boring , that's why you were asking (bloody idiot).
You can't even program a 303 no wonder you're left playing with shitty volcas or whatever that s**t is.
make sure you clean it up after yourself dumbo.
Have fun playing with your micromachines kiddo and make sure you put them in the plastic recycle bin when they're broke.
Cyaaaaaaaa. _________________
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(wearily) you use pitch mode to enter notes, octave buttons to set the octaves.
you don't know s**t about me mate so stfu.
Quote:
your 2nd youtube demonstrates what i was talking about at 7.25:
Time mode, with Note, Tie, and Rest
both videos start off entering notes in Pitch Mode.
No s**t Sherlock.
How long did it take you to write a pattern in it?
Oh that's right you own shitty Volcas and a few crappy clones and on top of that you don't know s**t!
GFY Pampered bastard.
Go back crying to mummy and asking the mods to clean the mess hall because poor wee boy didn't know how to even write a pattern on his crappy clones.
Ungrateful wee c**t.
You're better off selling all your gear mate.
Byeeeeee. _________________
was just having a bit of fun.
"stfu, gfy"... lordy lordy. the art of polite discourse.
(didn't realise the tb303 picture was that big before i posted it lol)
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ShoNuff wrote:
was just having a bit of fun with our troll.
"stfu, gfy"... lordy lordy. the art of polite discourse.
(didn't realise the tb303 picture was that big before i posted it lol)
All good, wikipedia usually has various sizes of their image available when you click on "more details", which is great, since this version of phpBB doesn't seem to support image resizing in the img tags.
Something which was rubbished into discontinuation but is now never seen on the 2nd market was the Rhythm Wolf. I have one and when I bought I swear I spent about three months just pretending I was a member of UR every night. It's not a great 303 imitator but still was a neat bass-and-drums-in-a-box machine. I still use the kick and the hats on it regularly.
All this talk of 303's has made me need to listen to some Acid Junkies and pretend it's 1993 again!
Ah to keep on topic, here's a video:
I love that this isn't just another subtractive synth and does have something more to offer than vco->vcf->vca. _________________ Stuff I'm using: Umm right now, well there's a Volca Drum, a Micro Freak, an ADX-1, a Pulse, a Blofeld, a UNO Drum, KeyStep/Beatstep Pro/Keystep Pro (one of each), a Circuit, a LiveTrak L-12 and this nonsense: The Brief-case as it was about a bit over a year ago(the the complete ridiculous GAS monster collection here)and here
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i'll have to try that. lol
