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pa4x_user · Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:26 am Post subject: Tempo control

Is there a midi command (other than Sysex) that can be used to control the tempo of a style?

I am programming ‘Zorba the Greek’ and whilst I could use the data entry wheel to change the style tempo, I would prefer to use external midi commands.

I have googled, and I don’t think ‘tempo’ is part of the control change midi standards?

Thanks in advance.
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Fransman · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:50 pm Post subject:

Not sure if this is what you're after, but maybe this video gives some useful hints:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpJYFL_xyXk

Process in PA4X (and other PA's) is the still the same as in PA3X.
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pa4x_user · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:00 pm Post subject:

I am trying to set up a Song for ‘Zorba the Greek’, so I wanted to use midi to send a lot of gradual changes in tempo as the song progressed (rather than using the data wheel). The instructional video you sent is not exactly what I am after BUT will certainly be a helpful technique for some other songs that I have.

Thank you.
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Korg Pa4X (OS NEXT 3.1.0)
Bose L1M2 speaker system
Yamaha BT midi interface
Songbook+ app for iPad
Cubase12 Pro DAW software
Dorico Elements 4.2 scoring software
Band-in-a-Box 2022
Yamaha CVP-309GP

siebenhirter · Platinum Member Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 1844

pa4x_user · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:14 am Post subject:

Thanks Siebenherter,

I am not using an external device so that is not an option unfortunately.

I use Baum Songbook+ on iPad for my PDF music and Setlists. This calls up the Korg Songbook entry automatically, and I can also program midi commands to send to the Korg. But if there is no control change message or global command to vary tempo, will probably just use the data wheel.

Thanks for your suggestion.
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Korg Pa4X (OS NEXT 3.1.0)
Bose L1M2 speaker system
Yamaha BT midi interface
Songbook+ app for iPad
Cubase12 Pro DAW software
Dorico Elements 4.2 scoring software
Band-in-a-Box 2022
Yamaha CVP-309GP

BR · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Tempo control

pa4x_user · Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:56 pm Post subject:

So this is what I did -

Just made multiple Songbook entries of Zorba which were identical, except for different tempos:
Zorba
Zorba_2
Zorba_3. etc
and each had its own song code.

In my Songbook+ app, I added ‘action buttons’ at selected points in ‘Zorba the Greek’ which included NRPN code to select the next tempo variation (which kicks in at start of next measure). Simple to use, I just touch each action button whilst playing.

I also used a similar technique for ‘Day by Day’ which has a change of meter from 3/4 to 4/4.
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Korg Pa4X (OS NEXT 3.1.0)
Bose L1M2 speaker system
Yamaha BT midi interface
Songbook+ app for iPad
Cubase12 Pro DAW software
Dorico Elements 4.2 scoring software
Band-in-a-Box 2022
Yamaha CVP-309GP

tordenspyd · Joined: 27 Sep 2007 Posts: 43

pa4x_user · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:17 am Post subject:

Both hands are fairly busy in this song, but especially the RH. And I would struggle using the LH to set the wheel while I am playing. I would overshoot or undershoot the tempo I want.

But I can understand that others could handle the wheel better than I can.
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Korg Pa4X (OS NEXT 3.1.0)
Bose L1M2 speaker system
Yamaha BT midi interface
Songbook+ app for iPad
Cubase12 Pro DAW software
Dorico Elements 4.2 scoring software
Band-in-a-Box 2022
Yamaha CVP-309GP