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[piotrek_muzyk]

Hellow

I have pa2x and I would like to change the instrument for a new model but PA4x is already present from 2015. Is there any sense to buy a new model?

Has anyone heard anything about the successor?
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Pa4x 76 << Pa3x 76 << Pa2x Pro << Pa1x << Pa60

[pawlikp100]

If there was any news about successor of Korg pa4x, such information would appear here on the forum.
At this moment there is no OFFICIAL INFORMATION

All news appeared are only somekind of prediction and shouldn't be taken seriously.
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Korg pa5x vs Genos 2 - spec comparison

[Biggles]

There have been comments from 4X owners about the old tech inside the 4X being slow and limited in fast memory.

That said with the OS Next version being a complete rewrite (if what we are lead to believe is true) then part of the update has released more memory for User needs.

A sceptic could also say that they are trying to extend the life 4X by the OS update, by the freebie packs and by the Osimo Songbook/Setlist plugin.

If a 5X / 2000 or whatever it may well be called comes along it will no doubt by considerably more expensive than current version.

Look at the Yamahaha Genos, the only real competitor here in the UK it was £3,600 when first released, now it is £3,200. So I would presume the same high price to commence, the same thing happened with the 1000 and 700 where the current price is over 10% less than the initial cost.

So you could be in for quite a wait even after the release date, it took many months for many 1000 buyers to get their keyboard
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Biggles
Lancashire, UK

[keysman]

I upgraded from my PA3x earlier this year to the PA4x after much deliberation. Am I glad I made the move? You bet it's a cracking upgrade and instrument that serves my purposes superbly. Believe me, you would be amazed if you are coming from the PA2x.

Personally I would be very skeptical about buying a new released model for at least 18 months (Post PA4X). Initial software teething problems are basically left to the new owners to report back via forums such as these with OS upgrades released as and when they are addressed by the manufacturer. Take a look at the latest PA4x OS upgrade and initial problems which are still not fully resolved, hence I haven't upgraded my OS as yet

Hope this helps in someway on your decision.
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[musiccankill]

Pa4x unlike kronos , is NOT a PC...
So what does it really mean that "the hardware is old"?
AVR mcus are old too but they are being used in countless industrial projects even today because they are cheap , last for a long time and they meet the requirements for what they need to do..
Same in our keyboards..
The hardware inside is more than enough for what it is designed to do ..
The dsp is not overloaded, the whole system is way faster than pa3x, the memory is what they designed it to be etc.
What makes a product is the software it runs and if this meets the official task list (what the keyboard should be able to do and how it should behave)...
What i see is not a slow processor/dsp/memory but flaws in coding that result in bugs which make it unstable under some special circumstances.
Pa4x though has a pretty stable OS (2.2) and a stable enough for most users newer/upgraded OS (3.1).
If the hardware couldn't handle the newer sample management system they would have never released it..
It can handle it but it has some unavoidable bugs (as it is a very complex system and they design/test it first time in 4x) which i believe will be fixed sooner or later.
Next model , when it comes ( i believe we will not see it this year as many expect ) should have way less bugs in this aspect as most of them will have already been fixed in 4x.
I also believe that the hardware is even capable of nice sounding audio styles as ketron did it with really underpowered hardware compared to pa4x or even pa2x so i wouldn't be surprised if next model will have the same family of processors (DMxxxx) with higher on board ram and bigger eMMC (that's what pa4x is anyway compared to pa300/600/900/3xle/havian30 and i m not even sure that the processor/ram has changed or is same as 900/3xle)..
Does it matter?
For me no as long as the keyboard does what it was meant to do..
The OS is NOT a complete rewrite..
The factory resources were already in streaming mode.They rewrote the USER ram part.The difficult part wasn't the ram part i guess but making it easy for the user to use it without changing the way it was already working on the outside (what the user sees).Thats why there are bugs..
The internal code is way different but the interface had to remain the same.
This lead to unpredictable results as users do the same thing is way too many different ways that a small group of people (the programmers) can't think of!
I don't blame the users ofcourse!!
IT should have been ready when released to public or they should have released the os as an open beta so the users should know what they are working with!
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~~~The best keyboard for any player is the one that fits his/her needs!~~~

Korg keyboards owned now: PA5X 61 ,PA300, Triton extreme 61, Korg 707, Trinity plus

[karmathanever]

[B.Safe]

[Minneapolis Musician]

musiccankill,

Well said. I agree with you about keyboards being obsolete or not.

I have had the pa4x for three years and I love it.

I am still discovering a few things, and have never even tapped into the full potential of the Kaos unit.
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Synth song of mine: https://www.reverbnation.com/glenngalen/song/21469847-searching-and-believing-synth-beat

PA4x harmonies, Beach Boys song: https://youtu.be/3drsnU6j8Po?t=3m25s


All songs: http://www.reverbnation.com/GlennGalen

[Korghelper]

The odds of a new model months after a completely new OS is basically nil. Why would Korg scavenge sales from a new arranger by making the old one far more capable?

[duby2]

just like from pa3x to pa4x ,not much change ,, little better this and better that,,nothing groundbreaking..

the new pa5x will have the new OS in it with out bugs and more memory and fast and updated CPU ,Real SATA port & USB 3 support,,Increasing Polyphony,,all pedal settings saved with registration,HDMI output for FullHD monitors and TVs,Support for WAV for playback and recording,
So I hope ,and I will buy one..

[Biggles]

If you are in the market for a new Arranger then if the 4X fulfils your needs then go for it.

If say Korg was to be at NAMM 2020 with a new 5X it would probably be September next year before keyboards become available all be it at a high price. 18 months later the bugs will have been reduced and the price will have come down to a realistic level.

So ask yourself the question, do I want to wait until 2022 for a new Korg PA5X?
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Biggles
Lancashire, UK

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