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Liviou2004 · Last edited by Liviou2004 on Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:22 am; edited 1 time in total

Sorry for that question which seems so basic, after using my Kronos for more than two years, I need help for that issue. I've never tempted such an operation before.

I have downloaded a M1 sound bank for Kronos. It contains 100 sounds. 100 folders containing PCG KSC files for 1 sound only.
So I want to create a unique folder with 1 PCG for the 100 sounds (no problem, it's easy to do !) and one KSC containing all the used multisamples.

In a first step, I'm trying with two sounds only. So I want to merge two KSC files in a unique one and be able to load it after.
But if I use Save All or if I use Save Sampling Data, the folder wich should contain all KMP and KSF files, contains only files for the frist sound.

I hope I am clear enough !!

So, could please indicate me how I can do that. Thanks a lot.

Edit : I must precise that, previously, I've downloaded Multisamples with "Ram" option (not KSC setting and not Virtual setting).

KK · Platinum Member Joined: 13 Oct 2016 Posts: 1422

Hi there,

Not sure I understand what you want to do, but if you only load a few programs in sample mode, it's normal a save will contain only what is currently there (in your example, two programs). Have a look at this discussion (link below) and especially the excellent examples given by Dan from Korg. Hope this helps.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=93039

Liviou2004 · Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:53 pm Post subject:

KK · Platinum Member Joined: 13 Oct 2016 Posts: 1422

Hi again,

Remember that with the Kronos there is the KSC and the PCG stuff.

One simple way is, while working in sampling mode, add every sample set you like. To load the first one, you select the clear all option, but for every other one you instead select append. Once all you like is there, do a save all multisamples. The KSC part is done.

Then you copy all the PCG programs where you want them in a bank. You might need to associate them again to their respective samples. If the Kronos says so with the missing samples message, simply reselect them in each program. Then, do a save all or just the program/combi you want. The PCG part is done.

Last part is to add the thing in auto-load if needed.

I've just looked briefly to the link you mention. The person who did it intentionally placed each program in a different folder - which is not the usual way. Probably he/she thought people might only want certain programs and not all, so you can just save memory this way. That's why you might wonder how come you end up with just one folder instead of many when you create your own, but again this is normal.

Finally, note that most if not all M1 original samples were also part of the Wavestation, and ALL those are already inside the Kronos. In other words, instead of losing lots of RAM loading M1 stuff, you could instead point each HD-1 oscillator to the correct sample number. I know there is a Wavestation bank set which exists that does exactly this. The difference is that instead of loading anything in RAM, you keep it for other stuff and use the internal Kronos sounds. So your M1 stuff would actually sound better and you keep the RAM for other things. Also, since some Wavestation programs need more than two oscillators, the bank set uses combis to address this. The disadvantage is that you end up with some "half-programs" which serve the WS combis. Hope this helps.

AntonySharmman

Liviou2004 · Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:20 am Post subject:

Liviou2004

AntonySharmman · Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:21 am Post subject:

I'm on vacation so I speak by memory , so yes saving sampling data is in Disk Mode and any reference in Media is Disk mode.
Method is guarantee working fine but you must have working resources so the cause is those amateur resources !
According to one file that I have downloaded "Universe" , the right KSC there is Universe MS.KSC , I already wrote that samples
folder & KSC file must be under the same name , so always load the KSC that has the same name with samples folder , I suppose
all resources have the same issue there so do as described !

My description has a general purpose to learn the merging procedure in many different custom samples loading , all found issues
are caused by poor sampling management of that author , so if you definitely need those resources , use this service to do the job
for you www.wavesart.eu/Hire
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AntonySharmman · Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:51 am Post subject:

I devoted some time just from curiosity , I downloaded the 4 first sounds and master KSC of whole file that is completely wrong
concerning direct loading scripting !
If you want to explore it do the following :
- Open in your PC/Mac Korg M1 (00-99).KSC via text editor , select all and delete contents and copy & paste the following script there :

Liviou2004 · Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:12 pm Post subject:

AntonySharmman · Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:26 pm Post subject:

ronnfigg

Liviou2004 · Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:15 pm Post subject:

ronnfigg

ronnfigg · Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:53 pm Post subject:

Maybe this will help...

http://thekronosblog.blogspot.com/2013/01/loading-userbank-ksc-and-pcg-files.html?m=1
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