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angelitto · Full Member Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Posts: 244

This is a OS bug and happens with latest OS for pa1000(1.3.1) and pa700(1.4.0). On both keyboards i edited diferent styles and after i reselect them, or after keyboard reboot, the tracks volume and efects, changed and the styles sounds very bad. This happens a lot after i saved a STS, on that style, or after i saved the style from Style Edit.
On pa1000 i downgrade the OS to 1.2.0 and the bug its gone. On pa700 i didnt downgrade yet, but i think i will cos this is really weird.
I tried to reproduce the bug, and filming it, but I did not succeed. The bug apears randomly.
Now im testing too see if the bugged styles, have controllers inserted on tracks. And yes, they have. I saw some controlers. Ctr 11(expression) and ctrl 64 (dumper) on 2 tracks, used by accordion and cimbalom.
I delete all of them, and now i will see if the bug apears again. If not, it means that those controllers are to blame and some how the new OS, change in a bad way, styles that have controllers inserted on them.
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BR · Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:51 pm Post subject:

Hi angelitto,

Thanks for posting your report and that assures me I am not the only one who has problem with Pa1000.
I was just wondering if my keyboard is not defective and wanted to take a decision before the warranty expires.
If this is a bug with Pa1000 OS 1.3.1, do you think Is it a good idea to downgrade to previous version, if it's stable?

Thanks

siebenhirter · Platinum Member Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 1843

BR · Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: Serious problem with PA 1000

@siebenhirter,
Thanks for your reply.

JFYI, I do not have sound location problem with my set.
My problem as I mentioned previously is that Tempo, Master Effects and Style Tracks Volume of some styles change randomly after few hours playing correctly.
This happened also with a Factory style that I copied in User location.
Beside that, the same set works without any problem in Pa4X.
Thanks

angelitto · Full Member Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Posts: 244

@siebenhirter,
like i said before, its an OS bug, not an User bug.
Why these things do not happen with OS 1.2.0 or even 1.1.0?
All these problems appeared after the operating system was divided into 2 files: UPD and PKG. And that was when 1.3.1 for pa1000 and 1.4.0 for pa700 have been launched.
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siebenhirter · Platinum Member Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 1843

Aripearlmusic · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:00 am Post subject:

I've had no such issue with the Pa1000 or 700 running the latest OS using sounds and kits that i made on the 4x and converted with the pa manager for those machines. I believe they have corrected the issue in the latest PA Manager version 3.3. None of the custom styles loaded on either machine are improperly mapped and there are no program changes or control changes loaded into the styles from midis that haven't been checked for compatibility. None of the sounds or styles besides the ones i loaded are converted from older machines and there are no loops in the sets ive tested. That covers any of the stupidity causes. Don't attribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance.
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BR · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:14 am Post subject:

Aripearlmusic · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:19 am Post subject:

did you make all your beats from scratch on the keyboard without using loops or midi files?
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BR · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:44 am Post subject:

Aripearlmusic · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:13 am Post subject:

If he is such a pro he will know why it isn't working on the 1000. I would inquire further about the samples to see if he really knows his stuff or is just trying to sell you the free BS stuff circling around online like I've heard about too often. Pick sounds at random and ask him to show you why he did each setting in the various pages of sound mode and then have him set up a delay without using any of the delay effects. See how that turns out.
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karmathanever · Platinum Member Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 10399

To add to the process of elimination can you get your "pro SET-supplier" to take a full backup (BKP) of his PA1000 for you to load on yours?

Then you can truly compare apples with apples - this would be my next step and would put my mind at rest
If you have an IDENTICAL BKP and SET loaded on both PA1000s then you have a valuable starting point - if you still have a problem then I would be considering a full engineering diagnosis of your PA1000.

Pete Very Happy

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BR · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:19 pm Post subject:

Aripearlmusic wrote:

Aripearlmusic · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:29 pm Post subject:

That error when loading sounds is quite common because many programmers dont get rid of their garbage so it could be a random sound that is missing a multisample or a multisample that is missing a sample or sample that only partially loaded. Have the programmer check all the multisamples to make sure they have the assigned samples they need and check the sounds for any missing multis.
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siebenhirter · Platinum Member Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 1843