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ChrisDuncan · Senior Member Joined: 17 May 2018 Posts: 389

I had mentioned in the KApro pricing thread that I happened to be considering both a B3 purchase as well as something for the standard rock / blues horn section with trumpets, trombones and saxes.

I realized since I was looking for opinions on the best libraries for these applications it made sense to get the conversation out of the KApro specific thread.

At the sale price of $50 for the B3 and $100 for the horn section, the KApro offerings are attractive in terms of budget, but I don't want to make a knee jerk purchase based on price alone, since we live with these libs for a long time.

With that in mind, what are the favorites around here for these two types of libs, including the general price they go for, and how do the KApro offerings compare?
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KK · Platinum Member Joined: 13 Oct 2016 Posts: 1422

Different people, different tastes - I recommend you install the demos on your Kronos and see for yourself. To listen to MP3/wave example files don't tell much. When you try libraries in demo version, you can listen to the sounds as they are, without them being masked in whatever arrangement/piece and also another important aspect is you can see how they were programmed, which buttons do what to change certain parameters, etc. And it's easy to uninstall demos if you don't like them, otherwise if you buy you just authorize the demo with the code.

Personally, for Hammond stuff, I am satisfied with the CX-3 engine. It's easy to create good custom CX-3 programs from scratch or editing the factory ones into other ones. I also like some of the HD-1 organ samples for certain contexts.

ChrisDuncan · Senior Member Joined: 17 May 2018 Posts: 389

GregC · Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:41 pm Post subject:

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yeskeys · Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:11 pm Post subject:

Personally I found that the Organimation library had the best organ programming and sound. They chew up a lot of IFX slots however. I was able to trim one down to just using 3 IFX and it sounds pretty damn good, if you like a more organic distortion and not the stock distortion effects. Of course these are the same effects, just programmed in the right order and with the right parameters/values.
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Stoffel · Junior Member Joined: 16 Apr 2019 Posts: 78

Imo Organimation is the best library for organ patches if you don't want to integrate the Neo Instuments Ventilator. Have used it for a long time. Shurely the Vent is lightyears away from the internal possibilities but it is not inexpensive and you have to patch it external. But the overdrive...!
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yeskeys · Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:40 pm Post subject:

Please note that the Organimation library uses the CX3 engine. I just listened to the audio demos for the KAPro Legend EXs's, which are sample based. The audio demos sound great, especially the "Hush" demo.

I would love to get my hands on the Ventilator and try it out. But I think I've spent too much money lately and since I'm out of the band scene now I can't justify it.

I'm going to install the demo for KAPro's Legend and check it out. The sale pricing is good!
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Stoffel · Junior Member Joined: 16 Apr 2019 Posts: 78

Go to your dealer and try out the Ventilator. You dont't know what you are missing!
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ChrisDuncan · Senior Member Joined: 17 May 2018 Posts: 389

Thanks, guys.

Listening to the Organimation demos now, they sound great, as do the samples from the KApro Legend. Tough call. My gut feeling is that since Organimation uses the CX-3 engine and the KApro does something clever with samples, the latter might be an interesting addition since I already have the CX-3 engine.

Regarding the horns, I realized I was listening to the EXs16, which is Korg, rather than the EXs116, which is the Kapro. They both sound pretty good. The Korg sounds a bit warmer and the KApro a bit more shrill, that's about all I've noticed thus far.

I did bump into this reviewer, however, who wasn't fond of the saxaphones.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=93066&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

Honestly, between the two Hammond libs and the two horn libs I get the feeling they'd all do an excellent job.

My only concern is the saxes. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
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GregC · Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:43 am Post subject:

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Purgatory · Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:05 am Post subject:

Saxophone is an easy one this one :-

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=115234

Brass :- EXS-116 Power Brass

http://shop.korg.com/Kronos/EXS-116

Organs can't really help you there, happy with whats on the Kronos as default not really an instrument I play or like a lot, but do have my kicks for it for certain songs I like that use it.

Also remember the demo versions are the full versions just you don't have the authorization code to turn off the demo mode that makes the sounds cut in and out all the time.

So remember when you want to purchase any of them do not uninstall them just pay for them and use the code to activate them.

Also demo versions are easy to remove and don't mess with anything else, just install them to banks you don't use as a test. ALSO remember to backup everything before installing any library so easy to return to your previous state.

AntonySharmman · Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:07 pm Post subject:

ChrisDuncan also have a look there http://wavesart.eu/KronosEXs
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