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[korgpask]

Korg Pa4X COMPLAINTS.
When buying Korg Pa4X was a big reason for its (new) features.
e.g. Here are some:
1 * Chord recognition from MIDI files song.
2 * Import SF2 audio files and new sounds from SF2
3 * extended - improved SEQUENCER
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1 * Chord recognition from MIDI files song. To date, I have posted here on the forum, on the official website of KORG, my salesperson, who obviously DOES NOT know these errors and that is not in his ability to resolve. KORG (quietly) returned my problems and complaints to its dealer.
Since the inception of the KORG PA4X just the mistakes it has and KORG IGNORUJES these problems and has not remedied I am frustrated by their unwillingness !!!!!!!!!!
1 * Chord recognition from MIDI files song. is still confusion - inaccurate - BASS inver know 2 different chords at the same time !!! Can't use function !!!!!!! I VERY NEED THIS FUNCTION !!
e.g. to improve old MIDI songs.

2 * Import SF2 audio files and new sounds from SF2
the function either cannot load SF2 file or does not load correctly. Only left audio channel. Right NO !!!
Can't use function !!!!!!! I VERY NEED THIS FUNCTION !! During production, adding new sounds !!!!

3 * extended - improved SEQUENCER

the COPY TRACK function does not work correctly.
When using the COPY track, only NOTY is copied !!!!! not the entire track.
In the past, I used this feature every day !!!!! even with PA3X it worked correctly !!!!
It needs basic COPY TRACK functions like copy volume track, copy voice bank, copy EQ, copy EFX .... there are about 18 data to copy.
It is unthinkable to destroy this function as it is now !!!!!
And the idea to check the details and write on paper and then set up a laboriously new track !!!! Stupidity and step back 20 years !!!!!!

these are just a few mistakes .....
trader - the seller CANNOT solve it !!!
My complaints - KORG complaint was IGNORED ....

Sorry KORG but it is sad to behave like this instrument and do NOT let the musicians suffer.
It's not just my problem. It's in your SYSTEM !!!
I can prove this on any Korg Pa4X !!!!!!

The price of korg Pa4X fell significantly. apparently not interested in the model Pa4X from the manufacturer, because it deals with other models and maybe just for the Pa5X. The same silence was also given to the entrustment of the Korg Pa4X when the Pa3X system was no longer being developed.

Well I was forced to entrust to publish these errors as a warning !!!!!

My apology for the English language. And an extensive post.
But it's only part of the problems and bugs on Pa4X !!!

[karmathanever]

I am really sorry you have so many personal problems with your PA4X.

Personally, I have no issues with mine at this stage.
I did try a couple of your points above - like track copy - I used this a lot in a recent composition and it works perfectly on my PA4X copying the entire track accurately - all notes, CCs, PCs etc....

I am NOT arguing at all with you because we all try to achieve different goals with these keyboards and use a variety of external resources and detailed editing techniques.

I sincerely hope you get your problems resolved or perhaps move to a different arranger.

Please let us know how you go...

Cheers

Pete
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[Aripearlmusic]

As long as the midi file is set up properly it should have no issues with chord recognition. Try putting an actual chord track into the midi.

SF2 files with global settings will not load properly. those SF2 files are SF2 Instrument files instead of SF2 Bank files. the SF2 can only have the settings that can be set in the multisample and the sample editor. Including any setting that can only be found in the PCG will make it incompatible.

i've never had an issue with not copying settings from one style to another or from one midi to another because i start from the mix i want then add in the notes and make mix changes if necessary
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[korgpask]

problem COPY track is in SEQUENCER mode.

Approach.
1. Select your style.
2. select SEQUENCER mode
3. recording a song only STYLE track (9-16)
4. He wanted to create a COPY track eg. 14 TRACK to 1 track.
5. use the COPY track function ...
6. ONLY NOTE was copied to 1 track. paramater ao volume, program change, EFX, EQ, etc ... NO

I use korg OS v 3.1.0
I have tried this many times, but still without success.

[korgpask]

Chord detection from MIDI.
The manual says it can detect chords from a MIDI files song.
since the emergence of Pa4x it is bad and incorrect.
I posted it on the forum several times.
Chord recognition is always based on the lowest lowest tone.
chord C if it is in MIDi as G-C-E then the G chord + C chord (C / G) is played simultaneously. at one time. This is very bad and inapplicable.
  as C chord E-C-G will be E + C chord as one (C / E)
This NEVER worked correctly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All OS were the same for this activity - bad

[korgpask]

How is it possible ? that the above mentioned functions worked correctly on Pa3X and never on Pa4X ???????????
These problems in my Pa4X are in all systems.

OK tomorrow I will post all the videos on YOUTUBE



I had all the Korg Pa models.
I know Korg Pa.
I am sad - angry that this does not work and has not been repaired for more than 4 years !!!!!!!!
I still wait for the repair but in vain !!!!

[karmathanever]

[korgpask]

link to youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdA0BTrSLI4


link to midi for TEST:

http://www.korgpa.sk/forums/copytrack/TEST_copy_track_14_to_2.MID

Only NOTE was copied.
more data VOLUME, PAN, EQ H-M-L, Effect 1-2-3, insert FX, VOICE ... NO !!!

How is it possible ???
My job is bad. I can't work what I need. HUGE LIMITATION !!

The COPY function does not work as it should.
Not working properly!
Korg Pa4X factory reset, install clean system, setup midi, test various modes.
no success.
Great despair

[karmathanever]

This seems to be correct.
Respectfully (just trying to help), I think you are not realising that all the "Pages" (tabs) in SEQUENCER>> SONG EDIT relate to MIDI event editing - nothing else - TRACK COPY is MIDI event copying. Perhaps Korg should have renamed the "tab" as "Event Copy" as (I guess) "Track copy" does kinda sound like the entire PA4X track is copied.

I understand that you are wanting to "duplicate" the entire PA4X sequencer song track but that option doesn't exist (but would be nice).
Track copy is all about MIDI data events and hence requests that you specify start/end measures and destination for the copy etc... - THIS IS MIDI data track copy and it works correctly and includes all MIDI track data - notes, PC, CC etc... It enables you to selectively copy MIDI data from the track and place it in the same or different track - when you copy and select measure #1 to the last measure # then you effectively get the entire MIDI data copied.

Track copy does not copy the other PA4X song track parameter settings (i.e. that are not in the MIDI track data) like the PA4X-song-track-settings EQ, PAN, FX etc as in your video - these are NOT MIDI track events, however, you can insert them into the MIDI data if you wish and will need to if you are exporting the sequence and wanting to import it later.

PA3X is same.

Pete
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[Aripearlmusic]

if you dont add those CC into the midi track they wont copy. for example if i set panning on the track but don't set it by inserting CC10 in event edit it wont copy.
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[karmathanever]

[korgpask]

thank you for your help.  Yes that's true what you write.  the parameters I put on the track will be copied.  I wanted to show the problem Korg reading and writing my data.  that means midi from style - saved as midi song - load to midi song - data + event load ok.  but not copy.  korg my data that we should write at the beginning of the track - then this problem would not be.  And many a lot of time and work would be saving.


 opportunities for improvement.  saving effort - time - to perfection

[karmathanever]

Add your suggestion to the wish list topic

Pete
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