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Daniel M
Joined: 21 Aug 2020 Posts: 19
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:15 pm Post subject: Kronos and Albion One |
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I have my Kronos hooked up to a Focusrite 6i6 2nd Gen with two TRS cables and the interface is connected via a standard USB 2.0 cable into my PC. I know I can assign MIDI CC#'s to the various bits on the Kronos' control panel, which I've been trying to do with my sound library, Spitfire's Albion One, but for some reason, Albion won't recognize the Kronos. I enable Learn MIDI control in Albion and move the sliders on the Kronos, but Albion doesn't acknowledge the Kronos. It won't even let me use the instruments in Albion with the Kronos. I play something, and I hear only the Kronos. Any help here is greatly appreciated!
Also, I'm completely new to the Kronos and all the tech, so for anyone who can help, please keep that in mind with your answers. |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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what is Albion One ?
Albion ONE is a sample library built to work with Native Instrument's Kontakt Player. It's also NKS-ready - pre-mapped and ready to play, with light guides for visual key switches, splits and mapping feedback, and hardware library browsing. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams
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exsequor699 Full Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Do you use Ext button? (Ext) in the Control Assign section? You can also create CC MIDI messages in Global Mode. Uninstall and install again the drivers just in case. |
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pedro5 Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2011 Posts: 1150 Location: Coventry UK.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Daniel….Welcome to the forum.
Without actually knowing what has already been done, the following can only be basic advice.
It seems as if the midi link is missing, possibly the driver hasn’t been installed or a malfunction somewhere.
This could be either with the pc or the initial settings within the audio interface.
I suggest reading the audio interface manual again and follow the set up routine, using its own built in software etc, incase something was overlooked.
It could even be related to actual midi device count in windows….there is a max limit.
There is a workaround for this and plenty of information can be found via a google search etc.
Assuming that Kontakt Player has been installed….check its settings as well.
Let us know how you get on.
Best Wishes. |
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exsequor699 Full Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2016 Posts: 132
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Also check different USB cables. |
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Daniel M
Joined: 21 Aug 2020 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Sadly, I don't have the manual for the interface. I bought it used, so it didn't come with the interface. If it helps any, everything works. I can play something on the Kronos and hear it in my headphones, and Cubase records what I play with no issues on playback. I downloaded the driver for the interface off the Focusrite website and so far, so good.
After doing some looking in Albion, I found that the software does recognize the interface as a MIDI device, but doesn't recognize the Kronos. I have no idea why.
[quote="pedro5"]Hello Daniel….Welcome to the forum.
Without actually knowing what has already been done, the following can only be basic advice.
It seems as if the midi link is missing, possibly the driver hasn’t been installed or a malfunction somewhere.
This could be either with the pc or the initial settings within the audio interface.
I suggest reading the audio interface manual again and follow the set up routine, using its own built in software etc, incase something was overlooked.
It could even be related to actual midi device count in windows….there is a max limit.
There is a workaround for this and plenty of information can be found via a google search etc.
Assuming that Kontakt Player has been installed….check its settings as well.
Let us know how you get on.
Best Wishes.[/quote] |
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alland Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 577 Location: Estonia
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:37 am Post subject: |
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From your post one can assume that you want to get MIDI from Kronos to drive something on your PC.
But it is not clear whether or how you have connected your Kronos MIDI (Din or USB) to your PC.
Please describe how MIDI should get from Kronos to PC for your setup. _________________ Korg KronosX/Pa4x/M3 • Ableton • Komplete 13 • Omnisphere • soundcloud.com/allandd |
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pedro5 Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2011 Posts: 1150 Location: Coventry UK.
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:25 am Post subject: |
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The manual for the audio interface can be downloaded from the internet.
The driver I mentioned is for the Kronos.... a download from Korg.
Also,as you're using cubase,there are more settings to be done there as well.
Albion can either be played as a stand alone instrument(Kontakt Player) or via a daw(cubase or other etc).
Another test you could try is to connect the Kronos directly via usb into the pc,bypassing the audio interface.
This may help prove the midi connection.
Once this is established,(ie Kronos /midi/pc/daw is working) re connect the audio interface where further settings can then be made.
It may seem complicated,but following each step in turn will provide a positive result.
You will get there !!
Providing more infromation on your set up would also help a better understanding for us to offer further advice.
Best Wishes. |
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pedro5 Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Just some additional notes that may help.
In cubase go to Studio Set Up.
Then into MIDI Port Set Up.
This will provide a list of all active midi devices.
OR
Create a midi track and check the inspector part.
This will also provide a list of all midi devices.
If the Kronos is not listed….it will confirm that the midi link is missing.
The only remedy I know of for a pc, is to install the Korg midi driver.
As a point of interest to others…..Mac users do not need this driver, unless the editor is being used.
Best Wishes. |
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Daniel M
Joined: 21 Aug 2020 Posts: 19
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:40 am Post subject: |
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So how would I go about getting Albion to work with the Kronos as both a standalone instrument and through the DAW? Like I said in the og post, Albion doesn't recognize the Kronos in any way, shape, or form, but getting it to work through Cubase could be useful.
[quote="pedro5"]The manual for the audio interface can be downloaded from the internet.
The driver I mentioned is for the Kronos.... a download from Korg.
Also,as you're using cubase,there are more settings to be done there as well.
Albion can either be played as a stand alone instrument(Kontakt Player) or via a daw(cubase or other etc).
Another test you could try is to connect the Kronos directly via usb into the pc,bypassing the audio interface.
This may help prove the midi connection.
Once this is established,(ie Kronos /midi/pc/daw is working) re connect the audio interface where further settings can then be made.
It may seem complicated,but following each step in turn will provide a positive result.
You will get there !!
Providing more infromation on your set up would also help a better understanding for us to offer further advice.
Best Wishes.[/quote] |
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alland Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 577 Location: Estonia
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Daniel M wrote: | So how would I go about getting Albion to work with the Kronos as both a standalone instrument and through the DAW? Like I said in the og post, Albion doesn't recognize the Kronos in any way, shape, or form, but getting it to work through Cubase could be useful. |
Way 1)
1.1 - Connect Kronos Audio to Focusrite Audio input (as you already did basen on your first post)
1.2 - Connect some audio system/amp to Focusrite Main out in order to hear anything that comes out from your computer
1.3. - Connect Focusrite USB to ypur PC USB and install Focusrite ASIO driver (as probably done if you have used Focusrite)
1.4. - Connect Kronos DIN Midi Out to Focusrite Midi In. If you want to drive your Kronos with PC connect also Focusrite Midi Out to Kronos Midi In.
Now you should have all necessary signals in your PC. Kronos Midi appears as Focusrite Midi. Route your Midi and Audio as connected.
In standalone Albion One (in Kontakt) choose proper audio and Midi channels. In DAW (Cubase) insert Kontakt/Albion as VST plugin into Midi track, route Focusrite Midi to Track input and route track audio out to Main Out.
Way 2)
2.1. - Download Kronos Midi Drivers from korg.com and install
2.2. - Follw 1.1 through 1.3 in Way 1)
2.3. - Connect Kronos with USB cable to PC for Midi
Now you should have all necessary signals in your PC. Kronos Midi appears as Kronos midi device. Route your Midi and Audio as connected.
In standalone Albion One (in Kontakt) choose proper audio and Midi channels. In DAW (Cubase) insert Kontakt/Albion as VST plugin into Midi track, route Kronos Midi to Track input and route track audio out to Main Out. _________________ Korg KronosX/Pa4x/M3 • Ableton • Komplete 13 • Omnisphere • soundcloud.com/allandd |
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mrfudge
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:50 am Post subject: |
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I use Albion one and other VSTs with Cubase all the time, just with a USB cable to the computer, here's a useful link
https://soundsofplanet.manifo.com/cubase |
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pedro5 Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Without knowing what you have actually tried out,I still think the major problem relates to missing drivers and a few subsequent settings.
However, alland and mrfudge have Kindly provided detailed guides for these, you should now be able to sort things out.
Let us know how you get on.
Best Wishes |
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Daniel M
Joined: 21 Aug 2020 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Hey there! Just wanted to give you a quick update and tell you that I finally got Albion to work with the Kronos, which I am absolutely ecstatic about!! It turns out, I was looking under External 1 and 2 for setting MIDI CC# information, but that didn't work at all. The mod wheel/joystick thing (not sure what to call it or what it's actual name is) was being recognized as a MIDI controller, though. So, after some looking around, I found the Controllers/Scales tab, went to Controllers, and turned on MIDI CC# information under the KARMA Controllers for the sliders, which worked immediately. Albion still doesn't seem to want to display the keyboard itself when Kontakt is open, I really don't know why. But, the important thing is, it's working! And now, I'm trying to get Cubase to work with it. Thank you all for your help!
[quote="pedro5"]Without knowing what you have actually tried out,I still think the major problem relates to missing drivers and a few subsequent settings.
However, alland and mrfudge have Kindly provided detailed guides for these, you should now be able to sort things out.
Let us know how you get on.
Best Wishes[/quote] |
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