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[Bernie9]

The live balance knob is great for real time adjustments, but what is the best way to balance accompaniment and solo parts when first setting up a registration? The balance knob doesn't seem to be memorized,
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pa4x
Audya 76
Yamaha SX900
Hammond SK1

[karmathanever]

Correct - the balance control is not remembered.
You need to adjust the volumes of the parts and then write the SONGBOOK entry.


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[Bernie9]

Thanks, no big deal, but I was hoping I was wrong.
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pa4x
Audya 76
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[Musicwithharry]

[Korghelper]

A handy trick to try when occasionally playing with another musician is to move the balance slightly towards the backing. Got to make audio room for that extra musician, you know!

Always create your setups with the balance right in the middle. That way, if you need to make a global change, it's set once and forget it, rather than having to adjust for each song. This, of course, depends on the volumes of the styles and sequences remaining, consistent. If you find yourself always turning up or down particular songs or styles, now's the time to go into the editor and permanently adjust the offending Parts. Then it's back to 'set it and forget it'!

[Bernie9]

I have it now. I always keep balance on 11:00, also, for headroom, but occasionally, would play and older registration as a request and would have to scramble. Since I know the balance isn't memorized, I will make sure of the balance on all, and won't be far off at 11:00 under normal circumstances.

Thank you both for the help.

Bernie
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pa4x
Audya 76
Yamaha SX900
Hammond SK1

[keithwjones]

Took me sometime to work this out as well.

Keith
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Pa4x-76 PaAS Next 3.1.0
Previous Pa800

[Bernie9]

Thanks Keith
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pa4x
Audya 76
Yamaha SX900
Hammond SK1

[keithwjones]

Just remembered that I read this recently on a FB group.

Sound level is based on the scale 0-127, which starts at -64 and ends at +63.

This means that the actual zero point (center value) is 64, and not 100.

With 64 as the zero point, you can adjust the same amount both ways - 64 down and 63 up (64 + 63 = 127).

The weakest instruments thus get the maximum opportunity for reinforcement, while the strongest get the maximum opportunity for minimization.

Many people have probably noticed that the voices of the right hand often do not get enough reinforcement, and this is due to incorrect center value for style parts.

If this is set to 64, you will never experience problems with the right hand voices becoming too low.

So simply you set Lower and Upper 1, 2 and 3 sound level all to 64 to start and then adjust from that position.

You can do this for all sound levels.

When I read this it all started to make sense to me.

Keith
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Pa4x-76 PaAS Next 3.1.0
Previous Pa800

[Korghelper]

One thing you might want to be cautious of is setting volumes while you are playing...

We ALL tend to want to hear what we are playing nice and clearly to help us judge timing and note choice, but that often results in us playing OUR stuff a little bit too loud. You can hear this in user demo after demo after demo...

The real trick is to play about as strongly as you normally do (to make sure you don’t compensate later by simply playing harder) and record a sequence of the whole thing. Then play it back and try to see if you aren’t swamping the backing a bit. Be critical, maybe listen to a few pro CD’s to get an idea of where you ought to sit IN the mix. Then adjust the sequence’s keyboard Parts’ volumes until it sounds its best. Make a note of how far you turned YOUR Parts down, and copy those to the setup...

Now play it again. You’ll probably feel that you are playing a hair too quiet, but you’ll know that, from the audience perspective, you’re perfect! Record a second time, just to make sure you aren’t whacking the keys harder to get back to where you initially were! If not, you are good to go....

An upside to this is you often end up hearing the drums and other rhythm instruments a bit better, which will help you stay ‘in the pocket’ and not rush or drag... 😎

[Bernie9]

There are many factors here that I had taken for granted. I shall use this valuable information. Thank you.

Bernie
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Audya 76
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