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tony mads usa · Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:53 pm Post subject: Pa1000 HELP NEEDED !

When in 'Song Mode' the vocal harmony will not sound.

Here's the process I have been following with my current Pa1000, and the Pa900 before that: I record a backing track using the on board sequencer, creating a midi file. When I want to record the mp3, I load the sequenced song into Song Player 1, press the 'Record' button to bring up the mp3 record screen, press "REC" and press 'START' for Song Player 1. The song plays, I start my vocal, and when I want to add harmony, I press the 'Harmony/Double' button to turn on the Preset harmony voice I have chosen, then I play the corresponding chords using either the 'LOWER' or 'UPPER' chord scan button, and the harmony follows the chord progression I play. Except now, the harmony will not sound when in 'Song Play' mode, although my lead voice does, and gets recorded.
The harmony has always worked when I played the chords over the sequenced midi file, and unless I am suddenly missing a step or a setting, this is the procedure I have always followed with good results. HELP?
THANK YOU.
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duby2 · Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:36 pm Post subject: midi

check your midi changle... of your left hand or lower... your harmony might be set to changle 5 .... and your left hand is set to ch 4,,

then need to match ....

please tell us if it work or not ..
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tony mads usa · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:48 pm Post subject:

duby2, I took the liberty of sending you an e-mail showing my settings. I hope you have some time to look at it.
Thank you.
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siebenhirter · Platinum Member Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 1838

tony mads usa · Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:23 am Post subject:

siebenhirter, Thank you for your response, but I think there may be a misinterpretation of what the manual is saying. While admittedly, I have not looked at the manual recently, I do know that I have recordings made on the Pa1000 using the procedure I wrote above, and the harmony engaged and was recorded. I have also communicated with another Pa1000 owner who has verified that the procedure works on his Pa1000.

Even more confusing is the fact that a couple of days ago, while recording an mp3 using a sequenced track I recorded, near the end of my vocal the harmony kicked in without me even playing any chord or note at that time.

I have written to KORG USA about this and hopefully I will get a quick response and resolution.
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tony mads usa · Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:23 pm Post subject:

Situation Update - KORG Pa1000 Harmony.
The good news is that the Harmony problem I posted about is working again. The not so good news is I'm not positive it is fixed.
Prior to the problem of the Harmony not engaging when in "SONG Mode", if I were singing over a midi backing track - either one that I had created on the board, or a third party midi file - all I had to do was turn on the Harmony and play a chord, and the Harmony would engage. What caused that to stop happening, I have no idea.
In probing into the Voice Presets I found that there are 'Control' parameters that allow the user to determine what will initiate the Harmony when in "SONG Play" mode. To be honest, I had never looked that deeply into the Voice Presets, so I don't know what they are set to out of the factory. I did find out, however, that for third party midi backing tracks, the Harmony is controlled by 'Track 5'. However, for my own midi backing track files, it has to be set to 'Chord'. Obviously there is something different that I am doing - or NOT doing - when I create a backing track as opposed to other third party tracks. So what I have done is duplicate the different Voice Presets in the USER section with a different name and 'SONG Play Control' setting. I will use those when creating a backing track of my own, and use the Track 5 Presets for third party tracks. Fortunately, all this sounds more difficult and confusing then it really is. What is also fortunate is the fact that I use very few backing tracks for live performances - 95% just on board styles, and the Harmony just follows the chords in my left hand.
What is STILL very perplexing to me is how this all came about in the first place. Everything was working great until one day it suddenly wasn't. ?!? I will just have to keep going until it decides to 'fail' or "never fail" again.
As for the 'locking up' problem, I can't tell if that will happen again, but I am going to try to have the board checked out at some point between gig dates.

Here's a song using a backing track I created on the Pa1000 a couple of days ago, and then sang over it, recording an mp3 directly on the Pa1000:
https://app.box.com/s/8hi8vn229otnh1tslytrgx8rwiqdr4n5
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