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[worth]

Just out of interest .

Now the 5x has had its latest OS , is anyone who has the pa4x interested in moving over to the 5x ?

Whether yes or no please explain your reasons no criticism from me either way . Just interested .

[karmathanever]

One more update and I'll make my final decision.
I am not confident yet.... but it's looking good
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[duby2]

You should wait for more updates.
Until it catches up to the PA 4 .
It's just lipstick on a pig. Save your money for a while. You're doing great with the PA 4 already.
And some day soon it will drop in price.

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[karmathanever]

+100
Agree with that
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[Rob Sherratt]

I am tempted by the PA5x-88 full weighted piano version. I miss my grand piano which I could not bring with me when I moved back to the UK.

The Italian Piano on Pa4x is superb ... Is there an even better piano on the Pa5x? I think the only improvement that could be made is half damper support and proper pedal resonance (i.e. on open damper you play a note and the 5th and octaves resonate). Any Pa5x owner - tell me if this has been done?

[worth]

I am pretty much still in the no camp . I can’t see anything on the Pa5 x that anyone has demonstrated is different to the pa4x that I would actually use musically in real life .

Too much time has passed by for the new keyboard to get me hyped up about a new purchase and the abysmal initial launch of the instrument and long delay on a very necessary update has just poured cold water over the instrument for me .

But I can never say never .

[Sam CA]

[redfox]

[Rob Sherratt]

Thank you all for replies.

If there is a hissy piano sound on the Pa5x, then it is an absolute no-no for me. I have seen the reports from several Pa5x owners. Also the blown LED problem reported on Pa5x is a show stopper - a similar thing happened on the PA2x and I had to send mine to Italy for new circuit boards to be fitted. Apparently way back then, it was not a circuit design fault in the Pa2x but was a faulty batch of LEDs from the LED manufacturer.

Anyway I've come full circle trying out different keyboards. After the PA2x I bought a Roland BK5, then a Yamaha Genos, and then on Timur's recommendation I traded the Genos for the Pa4x-OR-76 and I am very happy with it -- best piano sounds of any keyboard I ever owned.

[taichi]

Every single post here sums up my feelings in a nutshell. Each day that passes will highlight yet another Pa5X fault. The hissing and noisy piano sound was reported here ages ago, the LEDs are cracking, not suitable for gigs only the home, numerous faults reported in Stickies and the list goes on and on.

This list is the reason to stick with our beloved Pa4X. It is a no brainer. Having said that do we a need a reason? I said here years ago “love your Pa4X and treasure it”. How true has that turned out to be.

Good posts everyone, well done.

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[johnsmies]

As all of you here seem to favour the PA4X over the PA5X I was wondering about the following:
I played Korg arrangers for over 15 years , did my fair share of programming ,which several of you enjoyed as well, then in 2018 switched to Ketron, retaining a KMA on top.
Recently I purchased a secondhand PA4X and had software handed to me from several folks here on the forum. But...........I was hoping that among all of that there would be some good SONGBOOKS, not so much with song REGISTRATIONS but with GENERIC REGISTRATIONS . Alas....all that I have come across so far are styles combined with righthand sounds that have hardly been tweaked or seriously laboured on. If there is anyone here who can offer a decent Songbook with lots of tweaked Registrations etc.etc. I would be happy to get it and subsequently donate for the efforts. !!!!
Come to think of it the same holds forth for User Sounds and User Styles. There is any amount of User Styles available but even most of the Korg Bonus styles need tweaking imho......


John Smies

[karmathanever]

Hi John

I just sent you SB (inc Korg's entries plus many song configurations) and very many styles - I'm guessing no good????

The original PA4x NEXT SONGBOOK plus the factory styles have many decent "generic" and "song-specific" configurations - all styles having 4 keyboard-sets ready to play.
Depending on what you want, I can't imagine not having to "tweak" styles and registrations in any arranger.

I think you need to be more specific and (politely) wondering if you should perform a factory reset (OS re-install) as your PA4x is a second-hand one - maybe you're looking at the previous owner's custom SONGBOOK, sounds, styles. PA4x is very very playable out-of-the-box (I am referring to the PA4X NEXT with latest OS).

Pete
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[johnsmies]

Hi Pete,

First of all belated big thanks for sending me your Songbook but as you have surmised it was not what I have been looking for. And to make matters clear from the start I reset the PA4x to factory default and afterwards loaded stuff from a.o. the Korg demonstrator here in Holland. Still not very convinced..it all sounds too contrived too blank and uninspiring. I know why, I know what is missing here, after all I had all that 10 years ago with my PA800 which I subsequently re-programmed taking me months and months of hard work.
(interesting to see how you and others commented on that 10 years ago by the way: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=66602

I am not looking for MORE but for BETTER. I have styles galore, sounds galore, could do with some extra good exterior User Samples but most of all I would need good Total Registrations ( formerly called Performances) and not necessarily or even preferably NOT song bound even though they would have to be stored in the Songbook.

Creating ONE good total registration requires going into both left hand stuff and right hand stuff in detail. It involves adepting Reverb, Chorus and EQ just for starters ( on all Acc. sections etc) . It may involve replacing instruments in the Acc. section etc.etc. and definitely adjusting the Drums !!
Unfortunately and due to circumstances beyond my control ( as you know) I have not got what it takes do to all that again the way I did on the PA800 at the time. Hence my question to others and hopefully some will feel inclined to give me a headstart here.

By the way I did receive and load Qui Robinez Mellifluous Set, which is a start as well as Reuben's Yamaha C5 piano samples which are quite impressive.....so I haven't been idle really....

Thanks for your comment Pete !!

John

[karmathanever]

Hi John

[johnsmies]

Thanks Pete, I have sent you an email going into detail as to how I set about programming my Registrations and what I expect from those. My appreciation again for sharing your songbook and giving me advice etc. !!!!