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Mersip Junior Member
Joined: 30 Aug 2009 Posts: 89
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:38 pm Post subject: Distortion |
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HI all,
On the FB page for Keyboards Players in Cover Bands, one of the contributors says he's having a problem with distortion on some timbres and is wanting to work out what the problem is.
I have had this happen to me, and normally use a process of elimination and random parameter changes to try and remove it.
The replies were pretty helpful in terms of looking at the various meters the Kronos has to work out what is driving the peak / distortion. But there were two replies which intrigued me.
I rely almost entirely on Combi's, often using Karma Scenes. One of the replies suggested it was better to work in SEQ mode. Why is this?
Secondly, another suggestion was to use the PC Kronos editor. Again, has anyone found this to be better? I don't understand how you can hear what you're programming, or better identify the cause of the peaking.
Appreciate your thoughts. _________________ Peter
Kronos2 73 and TR-76
Theramin
PreSonus StudioLive AR16 mixer |
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KK Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2016 Posts: 1422
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Distortion has nothing to do with the mode, it's simply in the parameters of a given program. Also, not all programs are of equal quality, with some obviously done quickly and not as good as others. Distortion can come from the amplitude section, filter, how the controls affect other parameters, effects settings, etc.
About the Kronos Editor, it is useful to work on programs more comfortably from a computer screen. One of its config options is called Play After Edit, so as soon as you change something you will hear what you have just done.
Finally, one great freeware I use to find out quickly about the assigned AMS and controls is TidyKronos. |
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Mersip Junior Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:13 am Post subject: |
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Thanks KK. I didn't know of TidyKronos so I'll give that a go.
Sorry fo the dumb question, but when you're using the Editor, do you have the PC connected to Kronos? I presume this is why it is able to play after editing. _________________ Peter
Kronos2 73 and TR-76
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KK Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:47 am Post subject: |
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You're welcome. Indeed, to hear the changes, the Kronos and PC must be communicating. Another great freeware to edit Kronos AL-1 and Polysix programs using a PC is Chrutil's AL-1 editor.
Also, as another example one of the stock Kronos programs for reverse piano is very badly done. With the TidyKronos freeware, you can quickly find out that Knob 5 in that program is assigned to a compressor effect which creates an annoyingly loud volume increase. |
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pete.m Senior Member
Joined: 05 Apr 2013 Posts: 484
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Kind of an obvious point, but is it possible that it's not the Kronos causing the distortion, but whatever the player having the problem is putting it through - the PA or a mixer, for example?
I'm sure he'll have eliminated that possibility, and I take KK's point about amplitude etc, but I'm mentioning it because I've never known the Kronos itself to distort. |
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voip Platinum Member
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Mersip Junior Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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pete.m wrote: | Kind of an obvious point, but is it possible that it's not the Kronos causing the distortion, but whatever the player having the problem is putting it through - the PA or a mixer, for example?
I'm sure he'll have eliminated that possibility, and I take KK's point about amplitude etc, but I'm mentioning it because I've never known the Kronos itself to distort. |
It's definitely something I've experienced in the Kronos. Sometimes there are too many Voices, other times the input of the Timbre is too high, sometimes it's the IFX, and sometimes I have no idea! _________________ Peter
Kronos2 73 and TR-76
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