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Choros · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: Stylemaking, Question

Hi Korgies,

is there anyone outside in the world who knows about general available(?) PC based stylecomposing SW used by factorystyles suppliers, (programmers).
I`m asking not for cubase or sonar but for specialized tools.

Choros

Rob Sherratt · Platinum Member Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 4590

Hi Choros,

Have you tried using the Korg StyletoMIDI software here ?

http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/software/computer/Pa1X_StyleToMidi_303.zip

I've not used it myself yet, but I'd like to experiment on .mid files generated by Band in a Box. I have no spare time due to the Video project. I was kinda hoping you could experiment with it and then post your experiences to help everyone.

Regards,
Rob

BasariStudios · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject:

Choros, you mean COMPOSING or CONVERTING? They are 2 different things.
You can convert as Rob said, or use STYLE WORKS but you can compose
style on any software like SONAR, CUBASE, LOGIC and else.
You just have to compose it into a SMF first then convert it.
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Choros · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject:

Thanks Rob for your reply,

of course good idea using these two tools. I have them already but
trying hard to work with KORG STYLEtoMIDI.
May be other users have made different experiences and can tell
about.
I was hoping to get specific inputs related to tools which are in use
at Style Composers who serve arranger brands.
Congrates to your tutorial project.

Best regards

Choros

Choros · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject:

Hi Nedim,

yes I´m asking for composingSW and convertingSW used by PROFESSIONAL STYLEMAKERS.
Guess that there are other tools than we know.
(By the way have StyleWorks too).

Best regards

Choros

BasariStudios · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject:

The best way to do it is, compose a MIDI file in a SEQUENCER somewhere
on a computer then the same FILE convert it to STYLE on the PA800 itself.
The PA800 can do that, use the PA800 as a sound MODULE to first create
THE midi FILE.
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shahid · Guest Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 279 Location: London

Hi,

According to my opinion, the best ever and highly professional software is "Fruity Loops" for making styles with computer, I have been using this software for the last 8 years and I have performed live by using Fruity Loops styles in my laptop and played keyboard live alongwith and it was excellent.

You would love it, if you know how to deal with it.

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BasariStudios · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject:

No Shahid, it might be Arogant of me to say it but FL is still a TOY.
There is a lot way more COMPLEX softs to use.
I own a PRO TOOLS ACCELL HD 3 system and is nowhere near
Cubase SX for MIDI editing. I use CUBASE since version 3.7 or since
1998 and its still today unbeatable by no other software for MIDI.
Yes LOGIC and PRO TOOLS are cool and top notch but those are
more for AUDIO applications, they in no way can do what CUBASE
does, forget FL, its not even in this category of applications.
And dont get me wrongi am talking from a different point of view,
most of it is personal taste but most of the time i am around BIG
engineers who do that for living same as me and i always hear stories
about this and that, my point of view is different then yours and so on.
I still look at it from a PROFESIONAL side where i make my living
from it...i personally never found anything usefull in FL, i use to like
a lot REASON but now thats way out of the LEAGUE too, the technology
and the market are way too fast.

Yes Rob, that is the best way to do it. Anywhere you create a style
its always best to use the synth as a module, no matter what synth
if you are using that style on that particular synth.
As for converting its not a big deal, i do it straight in PA800 cuz i
find it more convenient, while converting i can hear the original
sounds that will be in the style instead the ones in STYLE WORKS.
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BasariStudios · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject:

Shahid, dont get me wrong again bro, i am not putting you down or your
knowledge, all i am saying is that FL is still not in the same category as
CUBASE/SONAR/LOGIC and even its a lil diferent application then the ones
i mentioned, i think its still in its baby footsteps.
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Choros · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject:

Interesting discussion!
Not easy for me to find the best and most comfortable solution.
I wonder if anyone has made experiences with RMCA Pro MIDI Accompany SW. Here is a link:

http://www.xdigits.com/midi/screenshots.html
and
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/michaelbrick/styles/index.htm

This SW offers many style categories and makes the PC to an
arranger keyboard, (their text). Seems that it could be possible
creating styles too. Have not tried yet. May be it`s just a little toy.

Thanks for your inputs.

Choros

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rikkisbears · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:41 am Post subject:

Hi Rob,
it can be done for psr's using midi to style software for psr's.

If Korg also has midi to style software available, don't see why it shouldn't work??

I've only had my PA800 for a couple of days & haven't had a chance to find out what's available.

best wishes
Rikki
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I'd like to use Band in a Box with the Pa800/ Pa1x as a sound module, find styles I like, experiment with them, map them onto the keyboard sounds, then generate a midi file export from BiB, then use StyletoMidi to convert the Midi files to styles. I think this would be quicker and easier than composing from scratch on a PC-based sequencer. Do you know anyone who has done it this way and who is prepared to write up how it is done? I haven't got time at the moment to experiment with this because of current activity with the Video project.

Thanks,
Rob[/quote]
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BasariStudios · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:42 am Post subject:

PA800 does MIDI TO STYLE on its own in STYLE RECORD MODE.
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rikkisbears · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:33 am Post subject:

Hi Nedim,
my manual mentions needing "style to midi" software?
Are you referring to Import smf?? which appears to only import 1 chord variation at a time.

best wishes
rikki