PA1x vs PA800

ER · Post by ER » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:46 am

I have researched both and they are so similar,seems the Korg just took the PA1x updated sounds,change some things in the software,seq,etc,etc and just marketed a refreshed version of the old ? but was wondering about the differcenes between the two? I am sure their are those who have played both and can educate me please.

Post by **karmathanever** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:46 pm

Hi ER

There is a bit more to it than that, however I would extend your research to the documentation which can be found on the http://www.korgpa.com website. Also, you could post your question on the PA800 forum (if you haven't already).

I do not have the luxury of owning both - still loving the PA1Xpro - so I have no direct experience with the PA800.

Good luck with your decision...

Pete

Waver · Post by **Waver** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:52 pm

I don't have PA800 but I think it's clear that PA800 is better that the PA1X because it has more sampling memory, more polys, Equalizer, Guitar Mode and supports USB v2.0.

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:21 pm

Hi Waver & ER,

You might want to consider the Pa2x pro as well as the Pa800.

Whereas the Pa800 is limited to 64mb sample RAM, the Pa2x can be expanded to 256mb. Also the Pa2x has a built in concert grand piano sound with string and damper resonance, and the concert grand piano on the Pa800 not have these.

Other advances on the Pa2x compared with the Pa800 include balanced outputs, separate XLR mike input with phantom power, adjustable display angle, 8 extra programmable slider knobs, built in dual MP3 board, built in hard disk (both these are optional extras on the Pa800), an S/PDIF digital output, and of course 76 pro quality keys, versus a low quality 61 key bed on the Pa800.

Disadvantages of the Pa2x Pro compared with Pa800 are extra size and weight, no bult in speakers, higher cost.

Comparing the Pa2x pro compared with my current Pa1x pro, the advantages would be the extra sample RAM, 120 note poly instead of 61 note poly, 560 user style locations versus 96 on the Pa1x, two USB host ports, plenty of space for enhancements to the OS, guitar mode accompaniments, enhanced EQ/FX unit, and the dual MP3 board. It's also 1.5 kg lighter and 12 cm shorter than the Pa1x pro.

Slight disadvantages compared with the Pa1x are that there would be no possibility to add EXB-ROM cards, and you can't add an internal CDRW drive.

Current retail prices listed by Dolphin Music are:

Pa1x Pro Elite - 2947 Euros
Pa800 - 2357 Euros
Pa2x - 3243 Euros

Best regards,
Rob

ER · Post by ER » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:28 pm

Thanks for the replies.I am going with the PA800 because of $$$ and my lack of experience although i have owned and played in the past
M-1, 01W & ROLAND D-50.Their is so much to these keyboards and i am sure i will have a fun adventure learning this one.

worth · Post by **worth** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:10 pm

"Slight disadvantages compared with the Pa1x are that there would be no possibility to add EXB-ROM cards, and you can't add an internal CDRW drive. "

Plus

1 No physical sliders, essential for live organ playing and live style manipulation during performances
2 Inferior in built speaker (lower volume)
3. Cut down vocal harmoniser

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:26 pm

Hello Worth,

How's the computer upgrade and label printing doing ?

In case of any confusion, my comments you quoted were on the Pa2x/Pro vs the Pa1x/Pro. I think your comments relate to the Pa800 vs the Pa1x/Pro don't they?

Keep up the good work!

Best regards,

Rob

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:32 pm

PS I see no evidence from the manual that the Vocal Harmoniser on the Pa2x is cut down compared with that on the Pa1x, it looks to me that the opposite is true due to enhanced FX that can be linked to the harmoniser.

However, it is true that the optional 290 Euro add-on for the Pa1x of pitch correction and vocal modelling is not available for the Pa2x at the moment.

worth · Post by **worth** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:48 pm

yes Rob . Sorry

been working way too hard

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:59 pm

worth wrote:yes Rob . Sorry been working way too hard

I'm demob happy

You'll get your turn

Waver · Post by **Waver** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:01 pm

Rob Sherratt wrote:Hi Waver & ER,
You might want to consider the Pa2x pro as well as the Pa800.

yes Rob you're right!
in fact, Pa1X Pro is better compared to the PA800 because of the 76keys, sliders and finishing.
while it's better to compare the PA1X (not the Pro) with the PA800, and the same with the PA1XPRO vs. PA2XPRO.
this is what I meant

Regards

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:38 pm

Waver wrote: while it's better to compare the PA1X (not the Pro) with the PA800, and the same with the PA1XPRO vs. PA2XPRO.
this is what I meant

Thats completely wrong, PA1XPRO has nothing to do with PA2XPRO,
not even close. PA1X and PA1XPRO are THE EXACT SAME MASHINES
and none of them can do something the other cant.
You cant compare PA1X with PA800 nor PA1XPRO with PA2XPRO, they are
just 2 different worlds.
Life goes on, my girlfriend left me, found a new one, forgot about the old one,
stop being in love with synths and dont make mashine something they are not.

Waver, the last sentence wasnt to you, it was to all...people, accept it
and let life go on, stop squizing milk of a dry cow please, it becomes funny
and amateur...that was 8 years ago, its time for PA2XPRO, if someon is
in love with PA1XPRO nothing against it but stop squezing.

Waver · Post by **Waver** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:29 pm

Nedim wrote:Thats completely wrong, PA1XPRO has nothing to do with PA2XPRO,
not even close. PA1X and PA1XPRO are THE EXACT SAME MASHINES
and none of them can do something the other cant.

BUT I didn't compare PA1X with PA1XPRO!
I think you get it totally wrong Nedim, just read the whole posts again please!

Nedim wrote:Life goes on, my girlfriend left me, found a new one, forgot about the old one, stop being in love with synths and dont make mashine something they are not.

you can't compare your girlfriend to a synth, do you?

and this machines are our business man, our daily bread!
just don't forget that.

Nedim wrote:Waver, the last sentence wasnt to you, it was to all...people, accept it and let life go on, stop squizing milk of a dry cow please,
it becomes funny and amateur...that was 8 years ago, its time for PA2XPRO, if someon is in love with PA1XPRO nothing against it but stop squezing.

Thanks for the Advice!
after all it's my opinion and your opinion too

dimitris · Post by **dimitris** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:44 pm

PA1X PRO and PA2X PRO are N O T 2 different worlds at all!! Maybe KORG and YAMAHA are. PA2X is just an upgrade of PA1X.

Regards,
Dimitris

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:50 pm

Ok, however you say guys but if you read my post again you'll understand.
Waver, what i said is back on your words:
Comparing PA1X and PA800
Comparing PA1XPRO and PA2XPRO.
Where did you get that idea when 1X and 1XPRO are 2 exactly the same mashines?