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pjblues Junior Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 69 Location: Midwest
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:49 am Post subject: Korg M3 Radias Board |
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Where can I get the Radias board for my M3? My local GC does not stock them.
Secondly, I cannot sing a note on key. Will the vocoder have tones that I can just speak into and the tone comes out with a singing voice? I need help.
Should I buy something different?
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Trinity2112 Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2002 Posts: 579 Location: Delaware, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: Re: Korg M3 Radias Board |
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pjblues wrote: | Where can I get the Radias board for my M3? My local GC does not stock them. |
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=korg+EXB-radias&btnG=Google+Search _________________ Current Korg Lineup: Kronos 61, Oasys 76 · M3-61/RADIAS · Trinity Plus/HDR · 01/WFD · 01R/W · X3R · M3R · Wavestation EX · Wavestation SR · Triton Rack/MOSS · Z1EX · TR-Rack · Karma · D3200 · iM1 · iWavestation · iMono/Poly
Other Synths: Berhinger Deepmind 12 · iProphet · Moog Model D
Dearly departed: X3 |
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MartinHines Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3037 Location: Topeka, KS (USA)
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:42 am Post subject: |
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I buy nearly all my stuff via mail order to avoid Sales Tax:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EXBRadias
Just FYI, the M3 has a Vocoder effect already built in, if you were assuming you needed the EXB-Radias for Vocoding.. You just need to input a mic into your M3
Suggested Reading
1. Brief article on Vocoding
http://www.korg.com/service/downloadinfo.asp?DID=1137
2. M3 Parameter Guide pg. 515. Description of Vocoder effect and instructions
3. M3 Parameter Guide pg. 451 Talking Modulator -- this looks interesting
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Daz Retired
Joined: 01 Jan 2002 Posts: 10829
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: Re: Korg M3 Radias Board |
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pjblues wrote: |
Secondly, I cannot sing a note on key. Will the vocoder have tones that I can just speak into and the tone comes out with a singing voice? I need help.
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The Vocoder takes the formants and dynamics from your voice input and the pitch is driven by the synth itself, so an approximation of singing will do It won't take speech and make it sound like singing, because it doesn't change the phrasing sufficiently. The results are generally more synthetic in nature, as with all vocoders, you might find one of the 'vocal processors' like the Roland VP-550 or Roland V-Synth GT worth a look too.
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pjblues Junior Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 69 Location: Midwest
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: Great Info |
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Thanks so much, I really appreciate it. I plan on still purchasing the Radias board but will try the M3 vocoder as well. In fact I do have a V-Synth XT if I only knew how to use it. I bought it new and do not have 5 hours on it. Not being a true keyboard player I have a difficult time with it. |
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Daz Retired
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Crikey, you have an XT already ... get her switched into Vocal Designer mode, it's a very powerful vocal processor indeed !
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MartinHines Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3037 Location: Topeka, KS (USA)
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Great Info |
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pjblues wrote: | In fact I do have a V-Synth XT if I only knew how to use it. |
Product manuals are your friend. |
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xmlguy Platinum Member
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pjblues Junior Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 69 Location: Midwest
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: Wow! |
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I cannot believe there is a device or VST that actually can do that much tone or pitch correction. I am going to have to look into getting something to make me be able to sing.
I am new to this recording stuff and I am an old dude, 56. I love music and just want to have a great time. It is a serious hobby for me so I need to be able to lay down some vocal tracks.
You folks really have the knowledge! I am going to crank up the vocoder in the M3, V-Synth XT, and look at the VST auto tune software.
Thanks so much for the help and links. |
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xmlguy Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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A vocoder is designed to replace your voice with another instrument. It really isn't for what you want to do, unless you want to sing like a robot.
Autotune moves and stabilizes the pitch of your voice, not just to a nearby pitch, but to a specific pitch provided by a midi note track. So long as the melody is what you want to sing on the midi track, Autotune will modulate your voice to that exact pitch.
The unnatural pitch shift sound between notes is an intentional effect caused by setting the speed of the shift to 0. Setting a longer speed allows a more natural result.
A Vocal Harmonizer is also something you should look into. The Digitech Vocalist Live 2 and Vocalist Live 4 do excellent 2 or 4 part harmony, repectively. All you need to do is give it an instrument audio signal to track, and it will automatically detect the chord to use for the harmony voices. Check out the demos on YouTube. Some keyboards have a built-in Harmonizer. I have the Yamaha PSR-S900, which has a good harmonizer and can also do some pitch correction, not to the level of Auto-tune, but pretty well for a natural sounding voice. |
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pjblues Junior Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 69 Location: Midwest
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: Great Information |
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That is fantastic information. Now I am getting it. So I downloaded an Antares software demo which was identified on Youtube as a great software to use for pitch correction. I am going to try it today to see what effect it has.
Thanks for the "heads-up" on the Vocal Harmonizer. As soon as I can get something that brings me in pitch then I want to add harmonies. |
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