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mr.s
Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 36
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: emx drum hits |
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I was thinking it must be possible to replace the pcm drum sounds... somehow.
I bet korg have the know how to flash the chip or whatever you do.
They should have made this possible from the start and also filters for drum parts |
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zalo Full Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 220
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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it probably would be less work to just buy an esx |
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reddone Senior Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 425 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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nah , KEEP that mx ... but , u could try gettin an old MKI esI sampler ( which i use n put thru the mx tubes , it sounds AWESOME ) and assign ur mx n es1 so that the mx triggers the drums on es1 , for unlimited drums/sounds that can all be triggered from emx1 . Kinda like an esx0.5 ... lol
the mx has great synth sounds ( although drums a little limited) and when u hav an es1 running thru the tubes beleive me , u wont regret that purchas mate |
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musikmachine Senior Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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reddone wrote: | nah , KEEP that mx ... but , u could try gettin an old MKI esI sampler ( which i use n put thru the mx tubes , it sounds AWESOME ) and assign ur mx n es1 so that the mx triggers the drums on es1 , for unlimited drums/sounds that can all be triggered from emx1 . Kinda like an esx0.5 ... lol
the mx has great synth sounds ( although drums a little limited) and when u hav an es1 running thru the tubes beleive me , u wont regret that purchas mate |
hmmm...do i need another drum machine....hell yes!!!
Have you got any demos of the es1? _________________ Soundz musik |
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reddone Senior Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 425 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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i dont hav any demos recorded , but im battling this Hypenotica guy on soundclick and will hav atune up in a day or two . I'm using my es-1 for drums and the odd synth hit / vocal . I find that using "recycle" is perfect for chopping up hits n stuff into 1/2 1/4 1/3 .. and so on , then just put em on a mem card and in the es-1
U should get an idea from my tune how the es-1 sounds thru the mx from that ... but i'll jam u some of my jungle / dnb stuff n send u the link to download the wav/hi-qaulity mp3 .
P.s. the guys tune is really good , so i dont expect a win , but i love nu-skool-breaks so i'll give it my all .
Will send link 4 demo asap mate |
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anselmi Full Member
Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 184 Location: montevideo, uruguay
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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my 2 cents about it...
if you can save a bit more and get the ESX instead of the ES1
the ESX is more ANYTHING than the ES1
you got (deep breath now) : better sound, the tubes, more RAM, multimode resonant filter for each drum/synth/loop part, modulation generator, more parts, 2 synth parts, 3 FX instead of 1 with more FX each, better sequencer with mute hold, 8 bars long, much more motion sequences, the stretch parts and surely much more than I can remember now... |
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reddone Senior Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 425 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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mmmm ... eh , well all u hav to do with the es-1 is run it thru the "audio in" on the mx synth section and u hav all that anyway , almost , at a fraction of the cost . I'd never by an esx cos of the above reasons.
Dispute it all u like but to ME all the esx has that i'd like is the keyboard part ... an es-1 processed thru an mx is almost the same as an esx .
Esx is fine , but an mx & sx just isnt worth the money to me . Sure the sample qaulity may be better , but for drums es1 mkI kicks it thru an mx , for sure .
I'll show you soon |
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anselmi Full Member
Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 184 Location: montevideo, uruguay
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:20 am Post subject: |
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reddone wrote: | mmmm ... eh , well all u hav to do with the es-1 is run it thru the "audio in" on the mx synth section and u hav all that anyway , almost , at a fraction of the cost . I'd never by an esx cos of the above reasons.
Dispute it all u like but to ME all the esx has that i'd like is the keyboard part ... an es-1 processed thru an mx is almost the same as an esx |
if you like the ES-1 then be happy, man...it´s your life, music and machine!
I´m not here to discuss about personal choises at all...I respect all ways of thinking and work...
I think anybody could make excellent music reggardless of the tools..electribes, SPs or water-filled bottles...and If you got something good to show I really want to hear it!
BUT there´s some things that are not opinions at all,
They´re just facts...technical facts indeed :
to process a ES-1 through a EMX isn´t the same as using a ESX at all
the SX has a SAMPLE-OSC -> FILTER -> AMP and modulation section FOR EACH of the drum parts, not as a global or just one part processing as you get if you porcess it through the MX
this is a huge difference...maybe not for your workflow, but the idea is to show the people who ask for technical details the real thing
then you can add that due your music/workflow/wahtever you don´t need it at the point that it´s the same to have an ESX or an ES-1
also, in the ESX you got the motion sequences, the 3 FX processors and all the things I listed before
this makes the 2 machines way different
If this difference worth the difference in money is another issue...just a more personal stuff |
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zalo Full Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: |
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i would like to just point out that i never said to get rid of the emx
i love my emx and i dont see a reason to get rid of it anytime soon
im saying the emx/esx combo is what was meant to be
every store that i have seen floor models for both boxes they have always been midi'ed up together for the demo
having seperate tubes for each is also a big thing
right now im pre esx (i plan on getting one soon) so i have been sampling my drums onto the kp3 then cranking the tube gain for the synth parts on top
seperate control of parts is always a plus |
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reddone Senior Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:57 am Post subject: |
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yeah sure , overall if u are t buy a sampler to use on its own esx is the correct choice , but what i really was gettin at is that for a small price u can expand ur drumset a fair bit and it can still sound great .
I dont doubt the esx at all , its just that 4 anyone who owns an mx i think that shelling out for an esx MAY be unneccessary depending on musical needs ... phew , that should clarify it a bit more
its all good |
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musikmachine Senior Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: |
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reddone wrote: | i dont hav any demos recorded , but im battling this Hypenotica guy on soundclick and will hav atune up in a day or two . I'm using my es-1 for drums and the odd synth hit / vocal . I find that using "recycle" is perfect for chopping up hits n stuff into 1/2 1/4 1/3 .. and so on , then just put em on a mem card and in the es-1
U should get an idea from my tune how the es-1 sounds thru the mx from that ... but i'll jam u some of my jungle / dnb stuff n send u the link to download the wav/hi-qaulity mp3 .
P.s. the guys tune is really good , so i dont expect a win , but i love nu-skool-breaks so i'll give it my all .
Will send link 4 demo asap mate |
Cheers!I found some demos on youtube and like what i hear.How fast it for loading samples and getting something going?At a fractio of the cost of an esx it looks like a good solution for adding extra drum sounds to the emx..
You've reminded me i have a soundclick account,i've gotta start putting some music up there,don't know if i'm quite ready for a battle though
Good luck with the battle! _________________ Soundz musik |
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musikmachine Senior Member
Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 351
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: Re: emx drum hits |
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mr.s wrote: | I was thinking it must be possible to replace the pcm drum sounds... somehow.
I bet korg have the know how to flash the chip or whatever you do.
They should have made this possible from the start and also filters for drum parts |
I like the drums of the emx.Big and chunky
I agree with the others about adding something to complement the MX that loads samples though
Have you thought about upgrading the tubes?Think thats going to be my next purchase .. _________________ Soundz musik |
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mr.s
Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 36
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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I should add that i dont own any electribes right now. I did have both sx and mx but sold them 2 years ago to invest in a computer and software - and to allow me to fully concentrate learning them.
Im shopping for a used mx right now though. I think as a midi controller its just what im needing and also the step sequencer is so much better than a mouse. And just to boot it up without turning on the computer, for sketching ideas/patterns its perfect. |
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musikmachine Senior Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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mr.s wrote: | I should add that i dont own any electribes right now. I did have both sx and mx but sold them 2 years ago to invest in a computer and software - and to allow me to fully concentrate learning them.
Im shopping for a used mx right now though. I think as a midi controller its just what im needing and also the step sequencer is so much better than a mouse. And just to boot it up without turning on the computer, for sketching ideas/patterns its perfect. |
Thats why i bought one plus i really liked the sound.It's got a nice bass and some wicked stabs.Love my MX!
If your in the EU i know a place that gets em,not sure how often but he came through for me.PM me if you want the details.. _________________ Soundz musik |
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