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The_Future_One · Guest

Do you love the M1 Piano? Do you hate it? Do you just think it's *another* sound?

And why does everyone know about the M1 Piano, but few people know about the 01/W EP "PianoPad1" which is still after 10 years my favorite EP sound?

The_Future_One · Guest

Wow, the lack of replies is astounding! I thought more people would give their opinion.

Well, of those that selected, I can see that it looks like the M1 Piano is not very popular at all!

I guess it must take simple minds to appreciate it, since I usually get people asking me what the sound is, and I show them the M1 Piano.

Sharp · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 3:34 pm Post subject:

Would you believe that this is the first time I’ve seen this thread.

Anyway… I’d cast a vote… but for me, it has it’s uses only for emulating cover versions of old songs. Outside that, I don’t use it that much.

I use only the piano from Sample Assault at this point. LOL… No it’s not a sales pitch, it’s just that I do honestly prefer it for general use. The exb-pcm08 piano that’s built into my Triton is excellent, but I do find it dark and more suited to movie music than general use.

All of which is only my opinion. Cool

Sharp.
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Pecca · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 6:33 pm Post subject:

I happen to like the M1 Piano a lot (if you´re referring to the Triton Combi (M1 Layer Keys)
I would have voted if i had seen an appropriate alternative.
For 1, i don´t have the Roland JV-80 nor have i heard it (to my knowledge). But yes. I like the tweak alot !
Cheers / Pecca
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Vesa · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 12:46 am Post subject:

The M1 Piano from Triton/Trinty maybe isn't the same patch you like.

Where is this M1 Piano ? if it isn't on a TRITON, why have the question here ?
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John01W · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 2:14 am Post subject:

I don't have a category that I would pick, sorry Embarassed

. IMO, it is for awesome for genre specific sounds. Compared to other models of the time, the M1 piano spanks, but it doesn't hold a candle to the 01/W pro extra sample(or the xsc-3s piano/keyboard, same sample which is the 1 I use, great piano!!). As of now, I have the M1 piano multisample in my TR Rack. It doesn't sound real(M1 Piano), but it has balls.

About the 01/w piano pad ep, My God!!!! I luv that one, but I luv the piano pad2/piano pad2lp more. Man that is the sound. Both of those samples(1 and 2) are beautiful, 2 has these swelling harmonics, it's hard to explain. IMO the 01 has the best ep of that type, hands down. I love that sound. The 01 is king in my book! Smile

Sorry I couldn't be more constructive TFO. Later bro.

John

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Hey Futureone:

Throw a Grand$$ at the MoRack...lots and lots of beautiful keyboard sounds on that baby. As for my ol' M1+ with Piano Card, I think I'll hold on to it, especially since the dawgs pissed on a few of the upper keys as I had it leaning against the wall....altho a bit sticky and clackety to hit know, the ol' tank (with lots of cards) works fine...Jerry or no Jerry!!

John01W · Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 9:17 pm Post subject:

I'm sorry I got confusing, I should have said I love the EP sound you are talking about and agree it is one of the best out there for that type, but between the two I get more use out of 2 for my music.
On a side note, what I've done OT, is replace the multisamples and have come up with some really interesting results, add some slight waveshaping on the highest velocities to make it have that nice sparkly distortion. It's one of my fav pad sounds I have developed for my 01 just experimenting with my earliest days with it. It's definitely a pad type sound, I agree with ya there. Like I said, I luv em' both they are different sounds:). I had a spare ep patch like you describe, but it wasn't with the dwgs, just piano pad1 and the loop sample stacked. By accident I was goofin' and came upon that sound, then beefed it up in the Amp keyboard low ramp a lil' bit and some waveshaping . I'd hook you up with the patch if you still had your 01. Makes the hair stand up lol.

I like the sound you speak of for eps, but whew, I don't think I would use pp2 to make a lead sound lol, dunno maybe. Lead sounds? I said harmonics but I didn't mean lead sound. You can make it sound completely different when you start using the Waveshaping and it probably could be an awesome lead sound although.

Ep sounds I have in my custom banks just because they are so good lol, but I don't use ep sounds as much. There are so many good sounds on there aren't there.

Actually some of my fav. leads on the 01 are factory presets lol. I love the combi pad and lead(just take off the distortion in the FX), and progs monolead 1 and 2(which 2 uses the loop samples of one of the eps waveshaped, ironic huh? lol). The lead in Pad and Lead is a mix of the two monoleads. I make my own sounds mostly, but some of those factory sounds are just too good to pass up lol, the combi Katmandu lol there's another one. If you've ever heard the synth design set, the WShapeLead is another incredible sound, there's a combi lead in the sequence demos that's really incredible and hard to pick out, There's some good sounds in there.

I really luv the 01's choir sounds man(among other great sounds lol), I have yet to get a choir patch out of Triton that I like as much as the huge choirs I have tweaked out of my 01s. Maybe I just haven't found it yet as I thought I liked the Triton's choirs after hearing it on a few records, dunno, I'm still workin' on it. I liked what I heard on album with Triton's choirs I just haven't found the patch yet, I'm still tweakin' Sad

I got really turned on to the 01 from listening to Vitalij Kuprij. I ended up with a totally different sound with it after working with it for so long. If you luv the 01, you'll go crazy when you hear his stuff, huge sounds. He used an 01/Wfd on all his records, only on the very very latest stuff did he add Triton to his setup, and the 01 is still used with his Triton. I'm really blown away by my new Triton Studio, but I can definitely see why some people might want the 01/W pcm sounds for the Triton. The 01/W IMO is one of the best synths ever made. I just couldn't sell one of em' man lol, I almost did, I figured I had 3, I wouldn't be missing anything, but when it came down to it I just couldn't do it. Now I'm toting around 3 01/Ws(1 Fd and 2 rs with all those cards), a Trinity Rack, and Triton Studio. I don't think I'll ever need another keyboard again lol, just the moss board and the pcm upgrades(please Korg put out more EXB pcms) Wink

Jerry has always been very very nice/helpful to me, even as I write this the dude has seriously helped me out, very cool. You just need to get you an 01 again dude, lol I wouldn't expect any company to hand out free samples of one of their awesome products. You can get one for a great price man Idea

Maybe get the rack version dude, side by side, they are identical in sound/structure everything, I can tell you for sure. Same everything man, and a lot more portable. The Triton is a KILLER controller for the 01R/W(and the rack version is a hell of a lot easier to replace the backlight I'll tell ya that).

Sorry it took me so long to respond, was out for the weekend, it sucked, I couldn't take my new TS with me because it wouldn't fit in the car cause I haven't found a case and I had to use the box. I was dying to get home. Anyway, take it easy man, always good chatting with ya. I'm sorry if I got confusing before.

John

cnegrad · Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 9:53 pm Post subject:

I'm sorry, but I've got to be negative here. Of course when the M1 first came out it's acoustic piano was a marvel! (I owned the keyboard and the M1R.) But now I feel it's totally useless unless you're using it in a dance-type production where you're trying to get that "nostalic(?)" sound.

But in this world of Gigasampled, triple-striked gorgeous piano sounds, I can't imagine why anyone would have any use for the M1 acoustic piano, unless you're doing a dance production.
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SLR · Posted: Sat May 03, 2003 12:32 am Post subject:

WOW !!
Did I really see someone mention "Ephemerals" ??

My FAVOURITE patch of all time Cool

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Francois · Posted: Sun May 11, 2003 12:52 pm Post subject:

I think it's a bit unfair to criticise the M1 piano. Since 1988, synths have evolved, but if you replace the M1 piano in its context, then you'll agree that for 1988 it was ground-braking stuff. That piano patch was certainly responsible for a few people buying the M1.

François

Timo · Posted: Sun May 11, 2003 1:49 pm Post subject:

I've only recently heard the M1 piano sound, and to me, it sounds synonymous with the ol' hardcore/rave scene and the whole melodic/uplifting-dance type music. Very much like the piano sounds on my MC505, too.