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[kday]

This 37 key 14 note micro keyboard is a total toy and near joke.

Why build so cheap and small?

1. Where is the external card slot to store sample data?

2. Where is the 61 key version that makes this great idea more than a toy attempt at creating the sampling keyboard?

3. Why I get the feeling looking at this keyboard that Korg intentionally designed a half hearted approach to sampling?

Hey Korg can you make us a dedicated 61 key sampling keyboard with up to date specs and external storage options, large memory capacity, intuitive user interface display, etc ???

I think this is what the keyboard world have been missing in this over saturated world of over and over sample playback ROMplers.

C"mon Korg give us something much better and bigger then this cheap toy known as the Micro Sampler.

How about a "Mega Sampler" ?

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It's called a workstation. Look at the M3, OASYS, Triton Studio/Classic/Extreme/TR/LE, Trinity...


The whole idea of the microSampler is that it is micro, taking after the popularity of the microKorg series mini-synths. The Micro series is considered a bit more toy-like, not as professional as the other synths will full size keyboards, more features, etc. Like:
MicroKorg XL < R3 < Radias
MicroKorg < MS2000
MicroSampler < ?ESX? < M3 < OASYS
(or < Triton < Triton Extreme)
MicroKontrol < Kontrol49
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[kday]

I don't want a "Workstation" I have three already.

I was asking about the possibility of Korg making a 61 key 'dedicated' sampling keyboard that's not the toy 37 key microsampler.

The MicroSampler kinda sucks as a sampler for wanna be serious folks.

If it was 61 key, I could overlook many of it toy quality flaws.

[lloydsmith]

Yes I can see 3 workstations would definitely be enough.

A Pro/61 key version of The MicroSampler would be great but would tread on the toes of the M3 so probably won't happen.

The MS needs both a hardware & software revision - and a transpose button would help extend its usefulness. (However I could see this giving problems with chromatic translation).

I wish there was more dialog with KORG, like there is with Kurzweil, but then they have been generally roasted for the Microsampler - so they would have to be on the defensive.

I still think it's a great idea that is nearly brilliant. Had it been better it would have reached icon status - maybe the MS2?

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[kday]

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[lloydsmith]

You seem to have the perspective of a gear collector rather than working musician. Suggest - rather than arguing with us - you email KORG with your requirements.

Which workstations do you have by the way - one of them surely must sample to a satisfactory level or why would you have them?

[kday]

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[lloydsmith]

Brand loyalty is not the aim of most serious musicians as far as I know - cute as it is to have everything with matching labels..

If you wonder why you are largely being ignored on here I'll hazard a guess.

You introduce yourself on these forums with an aggressive, off-topic post.

You petulantly rubbish the Microsampler for not being what you want - and miss the point that it is a ***M.i.c.r.o.S.a.m.p.l.e.r***

Throughout this 'discussion' you shoot down rational points made with sweeping generalizations about what 'people want'.

It's laughable. I am wondering why you think posting to KORG on here is preferable to contacting them directly? If they did not listen to a direct communication why in heaven would they listen now to someone who is trashing one of their products on a public forum?

As to fussing over the look of the M3 - the Fusion is hardly an oil painting after all, but I'm sure that doesn't get in the way of you using it, neither would it me if I were brave enough to struggle with its well documented idiosyncracies.

Will it get the job done? That is the bottom line you should apply to any music tool or you end up looking like one.

I respectfully suggest that if you are unwilling to work with what you have already - you go the software route instead of clamouring for something that probably ain't gonna happen someday soon.

Then I'd get on and make music if I were you - but then I'm not am I?

Anyway - quote away - I'm done here.
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[Griffin Avid]

But the M3 is ugly and awkward, and gives a feeling of a module on top of a keyboard controller with an undesirable color. So that buyers would look to Korgs next great synth as a way of escaping the M3 feeling type of synth.

haha, wow that's rude.

I think most are looking for a sampling interface. Like a big button that says "SAMPLE" and another button that sats "START POINT" and a little square that says "TRUNCATE" and a large LED/Screen that shows the waveform view and lets you trim by eyesight. We want a large internal hard drive (Memory Cards are a nice option) and USB connectivity since so many samples come from/go to the PC.

Bascially an ASR-10 with internal storage and USB. That cost $2,200 when it was new, goes for about $400 now; over ten years later.

I think you're supposed to be using the Grooveboxes if sampling is your big thing. If you want to do light (micro) amounts of sampling then this forum is where you belong.

The M3/Fantom/Motif is a synthesizer that can sample.
The MV800/MPC 5000 are samplers that can synthesize.
Elektron Machine drum have a hybrid product.

I don't know if anyone is ever going to make both.
really, that person should have a drum machine and synthesizer connected and choose the sampling style/priority while they pick which half to splurge on.

The Radikal Tech Spectralis is another hybrid approach.
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If people were really that dissatisfied with the sampling on the Triton series and the M3, then why are there so many samples freely (and paid) available?

I do love new ideas, but I still get the impression this would impact on the sales of too many other existing products. There is every possibility that you could use a TR, Triton LE, Triton Studio, or even the M3 purely as a sequencer and sampler. I've actually thought the M3M makes a great groovebox killer, with KARMA and those trigger pads.

assuming you're talking about keyboard sampling. what exactly do you want from a sampler?
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Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro

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