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zhilik
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 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos vs. Oasys |
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| sirCombatWombat wrote: | | maphill wrote: | - KRONOS records audio in 24 bits, OASYS does 16 bits. NOTE: KRONOS internal sampling resolution is 16 bits.
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When I read this I remembered a discussion about the subject:
| danatkorg wrote: | | Charlie wrote: | | Edit: Did I get this right - Oasys is 24 bit internally - but you cannot export 24 bit?!? |
32-bit internally, actually.
I concur with Daz: best to either go digitally, or use the analog outputs with a good A/D on the computer side.
- Dan |
So if the info on Kronos is correct, OASYS does actually have significantly better internal resolution. Or am I mixing up engine resolution and sample resolution? |
Could someone comment on this?
I remember reading somewhere that the OASYS internally uses 32bit floating point processing. I always thought that this was one of the reasons why its effects sound so amazing.
So, does the OASYS internally use 32bit floating point numbers?
At what bit depth does the KRONOS internally process sound? |
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maphill
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos vs. Oasys |
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| zhilik wrote: |
Could someone comment on this?
I remember reading somewhere that the OASYS internally uses 32bit floating point processing. I always thought that this was one of the reasons why its effects sound so amazing.
So, does the OASYS internally use 32bit floating point numbers?
At what bit depth does the KRONOS internally process sound? |
Internal engine bit depth is the same, the quality of the sounds will be the same (due to hardware and OS, anyway).
Mark.
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danatkorg
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos vs. Oasys |
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| maphill wrote: | | zhilik wrote: |
Could someone comment on this?
I remember reading somewhere that the OASYS internally uses 32bit floating point processing. I always thought that this was one of the reasons why its effects sound so amazing.
So, does the OASYS internally use 32bit floating point numbers?
At what bit depth does the KRONOS internally process sound? |
Internal engine bit depth is the same, the quality of the sounds will be the same (due to hardware and OS, anyway).
Mark. |
Yes and yes.
- Dan
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zhilik
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Have the EXi synthesizers of the KRONOS (MS-20Ex, PolysixEx, CX-3, AL-1, STR-1, MOD-7) been updated in any way compared to the ones in the OASYS (except for the added polyphony)? (maybe more envelopes, LFOs, updated algorithms)? |
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EvilDragon
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I bet they're not. |
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danatkorg
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| zhilik wrote: | | Have the EXi synthesizers of the KRONOS (MS-20Ex, PolysixEx, CX-3, AL-1, STR-1, MOD-7) been updated in any way compared to the ones in the OASYS (except for the added polyphony)? (maybe more envelopes, LFOs, updated algorithms)? |
These synths are the same, though as you note things in the system around them have changed (many internal changes for the multi-core architecture, for instance).
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maphill
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Original post updated. Should this be a sticky?
Please let me know if I'm leaving anything out. Thanks everyone (esp. Dan recently) for the information.
Mark.
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Flash & The Pan
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Kronos vs. Oasys |
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| danatkorg wrote: | | maphill wrote: | | zhilik wrote: |
Could someone comment on this?
I remember reading somewhere that the OASYS internally uses 32bit floating point processing. I always thought that this was one of the reasons why its effects sound so amazing.
So, does the OASYS internally use 32bit floating point numbers?
At what bit depth does the KRONOS internally process sound? |
Internal engine bit depth is the same, the quality of the sounds will be the same (due to hardware and OS, anyway).
Mark. |
Yes and yes.
- Dan |
So..."Kronos" is the second part of the Great "Oasys".-
so...why "Kronos", why not "Oasys X1" or something like that...?,
"Kronos" is 99% a "Clone" from the Oasys, and do not come with me now with "sterile" arguments and lies.We know this ...."Kronos" is the Oasys part II.
Period and goodbye. |
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ozy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Kronos vs. Oasys |
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| Flash & The Pan wrote: | so...why "Kronos", why not "Oasys X1" or something like that...?,
"Kronos" is 99% a "Clone" from the Oasys, and do not come with me now with "sterile" arguments and lies.We know this ...."Kronos" is the Oasys part II. |
Korg would
Rather
Opt out of being
Nagged with quarrels about
Open
Systems in the future
and focus on just promising good-sounding synths instead.
This is probably why they ditched the Oasys name.
BTW, calling it "Oasys LE" would have had their marketing people run for the nearest knockable piece of wood |
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razzaq1
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[quote="StephenKay]I live on the web - one of these days I'll have to get a life.  [/quote]
Aha! It IS as I thought.
The 'Cyborg with the flashing eyes' on your website avatar is the REAL you.
The PHOTO is the Avatar. |
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maphill
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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PLEASE: This thread is for facts and information for those seeking it. There are plenty of threads for opinions already.
Let's make this thread as useful as possible for the curious. With enough good data, people can draw their own conclusions.
Mark.
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ozy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| maphill wrote: | | PLEASE: This thread is for facts and information for those seeking it. |
sorry.reacted to the previous post, didn't think of that |
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maphill
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Minor update to first post.
Mark.
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oasys76
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| Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| danatkorg wrote: | | zhilik wrote: | | Have the EXi synthesizers of the KRONOS (MS-20Ex, PolysixEx, CX-3, AL-1, STR-1, MOD-7) been updated in any way compared to the ones in the OASYS (except for the added polyphony)? (maybe more envelopes, LFOs, updated algorithms)? |
These synths are the same, though as you note things in the system around them have changed (many internal changes for the multi-core architecture, for instance). |
Hey Dan,
I don't no why Korg generate no hardware update for the Oasys users!
please update our Oasys to a Kronos maybe for 2.500 $ shure Korg can do this!
I'am shure then we are all happy and buy a Kronos toooo!
and again Karo libs for streaming!
-Oasys76 |
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maphill
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| Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Reminder: This thread is for information, not for requests.
-Mark.
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