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Kronos vs. Oasys (information only, no complaining/requests)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OASYS has customers, Kronos doesn't have any... Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpIdErWeB wrote:

- Kronos does sample and record audio in 24 bits, Oasys does 16 bits


Kronos audio recording is 24 bit, but I'm pretty sure internal sampling is still 16 bit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Original post heavily updated.

Thanks for all contributions. Keep it coming (I could use some help on the RAM, hard drive, and SSD capacities).

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was posted in another thread that I think adds to this one...

Dany wrote:
You can of course compare the specs for the OASYS and KRONOS on korg.com. For example:

KRONOS: AL1: Modulation:
Five Envelope generators, four per-voice LFOs, two AMS Mixers;
Per-voice Step Sequencer.

OASYS: AL1: Modulation:
Five Envelope generators, four per-voice LFOs, two Key Tracking generators, and two AMS Mixers; Per-voice Step Sequencer: 32-step sequencer with smoothing, adjustable step duration, and tempo synchronization.

KRONOS: STR1: Modulation:
5 Envelopes, 4 per-voice LFOs, 2 Key Track generators, String Tracking generators, 4 AMS Mixers.

OASYS: STR1: Modulation:
5 Envelopes, 4 per-voice LFOs, 2 Key Track generators, String Tracking generators, 4 AMS Mixers.

KRONOS:
SGX-1: 100 voices
EP-1: 104 voices
HD-1: 140 voices
AL-1: 80 voices
CX-3: 200 voices
STR-1: 40 voices
MOD-7: 52 voices
MS-20EX: 40 voices
PolysixEX: 180 voices

OASYS:
HD-1: 172 voices
AL-1: 96 voices
CX-3: 172 voices
STR-1: 48 voices
MS-20EX: 48 voices
PolysixEX: 172 voices
MOD-7: 52 voices

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CfNorENa wrote:
SpIdErWeB wrote:

- Kronos does sample and record audio in 24 bits, Oasys does 16 bits


Kronos audio recording is 24 bit, but I'm pretty sure internal sampling is still 16 bit.


Actually, you're right... My bad!

I just saw the specs on korg.co.uk and it's indeed 16bits/48kHz Sampling.


To add:

- Kronos uses 30Gb SSD, Oasys uses 40Gb HDD
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Original post updated.

(may need to get some work done now, but I'll stop back in later to update whatever else people find, thanks)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:46 pm    Post subject: Not a Fan. Reply with quote

Without the rubber pads I'm not a fan nor will I buy it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Not a Fan. Reply with quote

Attic wrote:
Without the rubber pads I'm not a fan nor will I buy it.


Yeah, we got that on the thread you started on that topic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Not a Fan. Reply with quote

Attic wrote:
Without the rubber pads I'm not a fan


it has a fan though.


and you can always connect these by usb

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had hoped that when KRONOS was finally unveiled that it would be a beautiful, groundbreaking instrument.

To be honest though I feel that it is a little disappointing and shrouded in controversy.


BUT it is still a fantastic instrument. I will be buying one if I can ever find the money. When it comes down to a workstation or any other instrument, it is only the sound itself and the functionality that matters. And that makes this a winner.

Actually reminds me a little of the TR - cheaper triton but with better sounds. Here they've made an OASYS II but removed the plush premium hardware design.

So even the instrument itself is a contradiction. Great move by Korg, but almost 'lazy' at the same time. Fantastic instrument that is almost shyly understated. Its unrevolutionarily revolutionary. Rolling Eyes Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I had hoped that when KRONOS was finally unveiled that it would be a beautiful, groundbreaking instrument.

To be honest though I feel that it is a little disappointing and shrouded in controversy.


Yup, I agree. The ground breaking synth however is the one in your avatar pic .... the Korg Karma and that is the only synth from korg I will be buying this year.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disapointed only because I hoped for something, I couldn't have even dreamed of, but otherwise Kronos is my wishlist, and my dreams come true: an affordable Oasys. When I saw price tag, the GAS filled me, like never before.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: Kronos vs. Oasys Reply with quote

realkuhl wrote:
Future content.... ???


How about porting these two titles to the Kronos? Smile

http://www.ilio.com/products/ilio-samplelibrary/skippysnoizbox/
http://www.ilio.com/products/ilio-samplelibrary/skippysbbb/
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on the specs and the video I would trade my Oasys for a Kronos in a heartbeat. In fact I wish Korg would work something out for those of us who invested what for many if us is a small fortune in the Oasys only to find it not supported a mere few years later, and surpassed by a similar product. (Not going to happen, I know.) That said, I am very glad Korg is moving forward, however Oasys owners might feel.
For me, the bells and whistles in any keyboard are nice, but far and away the most important thing is the sound quality, and the flexibility, and the responsiveness. It appears that beginning with the piano, the Kronos is the best sounding keyboard ever. It also appears there are many chances to use it as sort of a scratch pad where sequences, programs, combis can be triggered instantly and seamlessly, perfect for the sort of on the fly composing that I do.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all for the valuable information.

I would like to see the opinion of Dan and Skippy about the sound quality.

Dan, please explain: beyond the specs we know is there any important difference in hardware/software to compare (like you shown here for example).

Skippy, as a skilled sound designer for both machines, please share your experience and opinion. Which sounds better, which is easier to program?

Thank you very much for your help in advance.
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