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robinkle · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:34 pm Post subject: Which synth engines are missing?

I see the potential in Kronos. It's a computer shaped like a keyboard, and it can be improved quite easily with software updates.

Maby I'm alone about this, but I think there should be a FM synth engine. By just seeing how capable the FM8 software from NI is.
I have yet to see a modern FM hardware-synth.

I read in another thread here, that someone requested a wind-instrument engine. I agree to that one. One example is that saxophones are hard to get perfect in my opinion.

Synthoid · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:37 pm Post subject:

MOD-7 is an FM style synthesis engine... it's part of KRONOS.

From Korg website:

MOD-7 Waveshaping VPM Synthesizer
VPM/Waveshaping/PCM processing sound engine
Combine Variable Phase Modulation (VPM), wave-shaping, ring modulation, samples, and subtractive synthesis, plus a modular patch-panel system, and you have the MOD-7. Exceptionally versatile, it offers everything from classic FM keyboards, bells and basses (including the ability to import sounds from vintage DX synths) to rhythmic soundscapes and sparkling, epic pads. “Vast” sample-mangling capabilities, with incredible flexibility and power, let you create intensely rich processing environments: combine multiple stages of filtering, waveshaping, and ring modulation – even use samples as FM modulators – all patched together however you like.
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X-Trade · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject:

One thing which neither OASYS nor KRONOS have which I would really like to see is some serious additive synthesis.

I guess technically CX-3 counts but that's not really what I'm talking about. Equally I think someone said that the MOD-7 engine could do additive synthesis - with seven parts, that's even less than the CX-3.

I'm talking additive: K5000 style (notice how it is also shaped a lot like the KRONOS?)
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robinkle · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject:

CfNorENa · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:43 pm Post subject:

Just to follow up on Synthoid's post, I have read from a few FM aficionados here and there that MOD-7 is the best FM synth out there. I have no basis to make a comparison myself, but the point is, it has an FM engine, and it's apparently pretty nice. Note, also, that you can load old DX-7 patches into it!
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Synthoid · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:44 pm Post subject:

robinkle · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject:

robinkle · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject:

Synthoid · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject:

Yeah, too bad we can't get an EXB-Jupiter-8 or Prophet-5 for the KRONOS.

Think

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Mike Conway · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:08 am Post subject:

The MOD-7 engine is fabulous; the most powerful synth of the Kronos/OASYS engines, in my opinion. There are 6 oscillators (operators), which are user patchable like the MS-20 display; 10 EGs (including Amp), 4 LFOs, etc. External audio, samples/ROM sounds and noise can be simultaneously routed to oscillators of your choice. This is like an evolved Yamaha SY99, audio patch-wise.

One program can have 2 MOD-7s (12 operators) and 3 Step Sequencers. Assuming the bus system is like OASYS, there is also a workaround that allows you to patch one MOD-7 into the other, so you can cascade 4 filters in a single program, or run one MOD-7 through any oscillator of the second:

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robinkle · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:37 am Post subject:

robinkle · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:38 am Post subject:

EvilDragon · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:40 am Post subject:

Yes, you can use ALL THE SAMPLES INSIDE THE BOARD or inputs from other synth engines as operators. Yes it has feedback, it MUST have, in order to support DX7 import.

It's much better than any FM synth Yamaha has ever done Laughing

robinkle · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:42 am Post subject:

SpIdErWeB · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:02 am Post subject:

1 ) Mono-Poly
2 ) M1 (well, we can surely do it with HD-1, but it would be great to get all original presets from M1)
3 ) Trident

4 ) Winds
5 ) Reed
(Something like the Wallander Instruments WIVI would be killer)

6 ) Kurz VAST

7 ) ARP2600
8 ) CS80
9 ) Prophet
10 ) Jupiter
11 ) Minimoog
12 ) Moog Modular

13 ) Drums & Perc Modeling (both electronic 808, 909, etc... and acoustic)

14 ) Oh yeah, just a dream now we can use streaming... Kontakt Engine, or being able to import Kontakt library in the HD-1.

Should be fine then... LOL