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Zeroesque Senior Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 451 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:08 pm Post subject: Start getting used to it. |
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The mean boot time on these types of machines will keep getting longer and longer as consumers expect larger hi-def libraries, more synths on-board and a complex graphics-laden OS. _________________ Kronos 61, Kronos2-88, Hammond B3, Baldwin SD-10 |
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JimH Full Member
Joined: 19 Jan 2011 Posts: 179 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Start getting used to it. |
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Zeroesque wrote: | The mean boot time on these types of machines will keep getting longer and longer as consumers expect larger hi-def libraries, more synths on-board and a complex graphics-laden OS. |
Yeah, I also wonder if this is the new norm we have to expect. I've heard the Motif XF can also take 40 seconds to boot, probably depending on how much user flash memory is programmed. But my Yamaha S90ES boots in 10 seconds, which I like. _________________ Korg Kronos 61, DSS-1, EX-8000
VAX77; John Bowen Solaris; Yamaha S90ES, TX81Z; Hammond XK3c; Kurzweil K2000S, PC88mx; Minimoog (orig) |
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CfNorENa Senior Member
Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Posts: 437 Location: SF Bay Area
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I'm accustomed to vintage analogs, which sometimes take ten MINUTES to warm up, so I think I'll be able to handle the boot time of the Kronos! _________________ Korg gear: Kronos 73.
Other gear: Oberheim SEM | SCI Prophet 5 | Roland MKS-70 | Waldorf Microwave XTk |
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Hedegaard Senior Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 498 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Haha, yeah, that all puts it into perspective!
I suppose we really are "quibbling" over small matters.
Imagine if you had to take the Kronos to service every 14 days to get it tuned |
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mymusic42 Junior Member
Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 93
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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i would love it if a shell of some sort could be booted up immediately (or near immedaitely) and then everything else load up. my concerns:
1) those times when i just want to play right now. waiting a minute or two for the kronos to load is counter-creative. i'd settle for an immedaite load of a simple GM quality piano that i could play while everything else loads.
2) in the case of a power outage or loss, i'm down for two minutes while the kronos boots back up. in cases where i am the main or only instrumentalist this is crippling. in all my years of playing, its very rare to have an outage, but when it has happened, i've been on keyboard that can boot back up in 10 seconds or less. that's once scenario that always scared me when i had an oasys (which i rarely gigged with) and now i plan on gigging exclusively with kronos.
of course, the easy answers are buy a cheap keyboard to handle those times i want to play right now (although that defeates the purpose of thr kronos being my only keyboard. and i guess i could (should) get universal power supply for the kronos--especially since electrical surge is what killed my oasys! |
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EvilDragon Platinum Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 1992 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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For cases of power outage, you should have an uninterruptible power supply on stage! |
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mymusic42 Junior Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | For cases of power outage, you should have an uninterruptible power supply on stage! |
i know; and i probably will. it's just one more thing to carry. and the UPS i has is kind of bulky. hopefully they've gotten smaller in recent years. |
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EnjoyRC Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 746 Location: John 3:16
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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mymusic42 wrote: | i know; and i probably will. it's just one more thing to carry. and the UPS i has is kind of bulky. hopefully they've gotten smaller in recent years. |
APC has UPSs the size of powerstrips now. Still heavy though. _________________
Korg (Kronos 88, RK-100S 2), Behringer DeepMind 12, Roland (GAIA, A-800-Pro) |
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Zeroesque Senior Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 451 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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EvilDragon wrote: | For cases of power outage, you should have an uninterruptible power supply on stage! | +1
It surprises me how often I see players without this, probably the vast majority of players. The 'boards are just too expensive and take too long to restart to go without some minimal protection.
I think more guitar players that use rack systems have power conditioning and ups than keys players. _________________ Kronos 61, Kronos2-88, Hammond B3, Baldwin SD-10 |
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mymusic42 Junior Member
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maphill Full Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Start getting used to it. |
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Zeroesque wrote: | The mean boot time on these types of machines will keep getting longer and longer as consumers expect larger hi-def libraries, more synths on-board and a complex graphics-laden OS. |
True, but that must be balanced with the decrease in boot time (for a given size) that accompanies faster processors and memory.
FWIW,
Mark. _________________ Korg KRONOS 73, Trinity Pro, Monotron,
Roland FA-06 and Fantom 6, Roland TDK-15
Big Knob, Sonar (Previously, OASYS 76) |
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Scott Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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mymusic42 wrote: | of course, the easy answers are buy a cheap keyboard to handle those times i want to play right now (although that defeates the purpose of thr kronos being my only keyboard. |
It's better to travel with two keyboards regardless. Check the thread at http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=58566 (esp. the message I left there, it's the 8th one) -- you just added one more good reason to have two boards. |
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burningbusch Approved Merchant
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1203 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Start getting used to it. |
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JimH wrote: |
Yeah, I also wonder if this is the new norm we have to expect. I've heard the Motif XF can also take 40 seconds to boot, probably depending on how much user flash memory is programmed. But my Yamaha S90ES boots in 10 seconds, which I like. |
My Motif XF with 1GB Flash installed takes 50 seconds to boot.
Busch. |
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P5music
Joined: 02 May 2010 Posts: 41
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I'm accustomed to vintage analogs, which sometimes take ten MINUTES to warm up, so I think I'll be able to handle the boot time of the Kronos! |
So should we feel lucky that our Pc's boot in 50 seconds, and not complain, because old computers had floppy DOS disks or cassettes? |
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EXer Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 558 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Kronos Boot Time |
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orpheus2006 wrote: | No, that's not my issue either. Actually my son, who is practising the piano at home sometimes takes the long boot time of the M3 as an excuse to not do his homework. He requires a piano that can be switched on in light speed.
(I need to take into account the requirements of all family members, not just mine) |
This is not a hardware nor a software issue.
This is an education issue.
Raise your son so that he knows real life is not always instant gratification. |
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