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EXer
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 Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Start getting used to it. |
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| JimH wrote: | | But my Yamaha S90ES boots in 10 seconds, which I like. |
Waldorf Blofeld : less than 6 sec. (5 sec. 2/10)
Yamaha EX5 : less than 5 sec. (4 sec. 8/10)
Kawai K5000S : less than 4 sec. (3 sec. 6/10)
Yamaha FS1R : less than 3 sec. (2 sec. 4/10)
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Melodialworks Music
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos Boot Time |
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| orpheus2006 wrote: | | He requires a piano that can be switched on in light speed. |
There is no valid reason why a keyboard would need to boot in "light speed" in a home situation. On stage, live, could be a different matter.
Does the computer boot instantly? Does the toaster toast instantly? Does the coffee maker produce coffee instantly? |
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orpheus2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:33 am Post subject: Re: Kronos Boot Time |
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| EXer wrote: | | orpheus2006 wrote: | No, that's not my issue either. Actually my son, who is practising the piano at home sometimes takes the long boot time of the M3 as an excuse to not do his homework. He requires a piano that can be switched on in light speed. 
(I need to take into account the requirements of all family members, not just mine) |
This is not a hardware nor a software issue.
This is an education issue.
Raise your son so that he knows real life is not always instant gratification. |
Noticed. 
I can tell you that it is not easy to explain that it takes nearly 2 minutes before he can play the piano while his PC boots up in 30 secs.
Please don't give me the advice to buy a real piano or a stagepiano that is instantly ready for playing. That's not what I want.
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Akos Janca
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EnjoyRC
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos Boot Time |
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| Lougheed wrote: | | Does the computer boot instantly? Does the toaster toast instantly? Does the coffee maker produce coffee instantly? |
It says "Instant Coffee" on the packaging 
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ozy
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos Boot Time |
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| EnjoyRC wrote: | | It says "Instant Coffee" on the packaging |
It also said "Windows Works" on the package, and it didn't.
People carry badges with "Military Intelligence" on them, and they can't tell their elbow fron their knee.
Etc etc
So what?
Life sux.
| orpheus2006 wrote: | | my son sometimes takes the long boot time of the M3 as an excuse to not do his homework. |
tell him that such impatience leads to eiaculatio praecox. It could work as an incentive to patience.
On the other hand, the m3's loading time (and the piano sound quality) could emasculate anybody. |
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Melodialworks Music
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos Boot Time |
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| EnjoyRC wrote: | | Lougheed wrote: | | Does the computer boot instantly? Does the toaster toast instantly? Does the coffee maker produce coffee instantly? |
It says "Instant Coffee" on the packaging |
Even with Instant Coffee, there is the time required to boil the water! (Does anyone actually drink Instant Coffee these days?) |
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EnjoyRC
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos Boot Time |
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| Lougheed wrote: | | EnjoyRC wrote: | | Lougheed wrote: | | Does the computer boot instantly? Does the toaster toast instantly? Does the coffee maker produce coffee instantly? |
It says "Instant Coffee" on the packaging |
Even with Instant Coffee, there is the time required to boil the water! (Does anyone actually drink Instant Coffee these days?) |
Any way you look at it, there's no way it can be instant. Even microwaving would take time.
LIES.. it's all LIES!!!
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ozy
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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now...
STALE, MICROWAVE-HEATED UP, INSTANT, COFFEE...
ghhaaaaaaaa :-&    |
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Melodialworks Music
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| ozy wrote: | now...
STALE, MICROWAVE-HEATED UP, INSTANT, COFFEE...
ghhaaaaaaaa :-& |
Buy the Kronos for what it can do now, not possible upgrades in the future such as Espresso and Frappuccino. |
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EXer
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos Boot Time |
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| EnjoyRC wrote: | | Even microwaving would take time. |
It depends.
If you go into serious programming with user wavetables and UPAW, it can take time, indeed. |
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ozy
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| Lougheed wrote: | | Espresso and Frappuccino. |
I live in ITALY! ITALIA!
I don't even know what Frappuccino is... (something expensive in a foam cup, they tell me  )
... every morning, no matter where I am, I stop at the first available café and I enjoy the ONE and TRUE Italian Cappuccino!
And Espresso... they call it just "coffee" here.
A country where "a cup of coffee" means AUTOMATICALLY "a hot, good espresso", no matter if you are at work, on a train or in jail!
Here, "instant coffee" is ILLEGAL! They shoot you for heating up a bad coffee. Swear God, they shoot you! In the neck, like they do to drug smugglers in China.
Somebody gives you a bad coffee? ka-pow! You can kill the barman, and don't go to jail.
Good coffee is the second best reason for living here (and no, the first is not the Pope).
So, the Italian version of Kronos 2.00 will not have the Frappuccino module included.
Useless.
It will include a cement mixer, for fixing potholes in the street. But that's another story. |
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peter_schwartz
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| ozy wrote: | | Here, "instant coffee" is ILLEGAL! |
It should be illegal world-wide, actually. But the Stepford Wife-like actors in the Folgers commercials here (US) lull people into a hypnotic state, making them think that the life you live can be placid, easy, and completely satisfying in every respect if you have a cup of Folgers. I say "have" because the actors in the commercial don't actually drink it. Even they know better. |
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orpheus2006
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Kronos Boot Time |
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| Akos Janca wrote: | | orpheus2006 wrote: | | Please don't give me the advice to buy a real piano or a stagepiano that is instantly ready for playing. That's not what I want. |
I just wanted to give that advice (real piano).  Not because of the booting time but because of learning the piano in general. That's better - a piano is a piano, a workstation/synth/etc. is not. |
I knew someone would give exactly this advice. Be assured my son practises on a real piano at school.
But the home situation is different. We just do not have the space for an arsenal of instruments. The M3-88 (or eventually the Kronos) is set. No discussion required/allowed!
I just hoped the Kronos' boot time is faster than the M3's, and thanks to SSD and disk streaming there are chances this is the case. We still do not have a final number for the Kronos boot time, do we?
There was a nice joke about american coffee during the 90s:
What's the difference between american coffee and making love in a boat?
Answer: Both is f...ing close to water.
Nowadays the international "Italian" standard has been adopted in the US, too. It took them quite some time, though.
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peter_schwartz
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos Boot Time |
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| orpheus2006 wrote: | There was a nice joke about american coffee during the 90s:
What's the difference between american coffee and making love in a boat?
Answer: Both is f...ing close to water. |
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