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oasys76 Junior Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: KARO's orchestra & strings |
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KSL has close to a gig worth of samples. I wonder if this will be an issue with Kronos' RAM?
Hi Mike,
Thanks for your answer!
I like the orchestral sounds (strings & brass) in the mix!
the choir is also amaizing!
I don't no why Korg ignore the Karo libs???????
one year ago I create a threat with...... Karo samples for streaming please!
no answer from Korg???????
Karo support so much our Oasys with new libs!
hope now they working together with the Kronos, but it's maybe only a dream!
-Oasys76 |
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Lando Full Member
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 100 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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The KSL sounds amazing to me and is a deciding factor for buying a Kronos unless the internal string sounds are this awesome! Highly doubt that tho, seeing as the "amazing string quartet" in one of the movies sounded quite crappy aswell as the bigger orchestra in another of the demo movies.
Anyway, AWESOME JOB Karo, can't belive how a small company like yours can rival the big ones with this exquisite quality!
First post btw, great forum!
Andreas. |
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EWBR Junior Member
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 73
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:53 am Post subject: Re: KARO's orchestra & strings |
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oasys76 wrote: | Karo support so much our Oasys with new libs!
hope now they working together with the Kronos, but it's maybe only a dream! -Oasys76 |
Hi oasys76,
It´ s not only a dream...
Korg Kronos VIP Event Scheveningen/NL 2011
No doubt about it: a major highlight of this year's NAMM Show has been the presentation of the brand new Korg Kronos Music Workstation. It has been just a few days ago, on 7 February 2011, when Korg presented their fine topliner to a selected few dealers in Scheveningen/The Netherlands. Korg's Vice President John McCubbery introduced the credo of the instrument to be musically playable with sounds for musicians not for scientists. And this is what Kronos truly is.
It has been our sincere pleasure that KARO Sound Design was also invited. It was Kurt Ader who represented us and who was interviewed on stage before the general audience on our products and cooperation with Korg. In Scheveningen, it was publically released that we at KARO have had a close cooperation with Korg with respect to the Kronos sound design, facilitating the availability of already forteen different sample based KARO libraries - their ancestors being well-known from the Korg OASYS - which have been optimized for the Kronos and will be available shortly after the instrument series commercial release. Meanwhile, Kurt Ader and Peter Jung have been working on the finalization of two further Kronos libs which most probably will also be available from the start.
Link to AMAZONA.DE (Korg Kronos VIP Event Scheveningen/NL 2011) (german language only): http://www.amazona.de/index.php?page=26&file=2&article_id=3295
Best Regards
Oliver
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Lando Full Member
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 100 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: KARO's orchestra & strings |
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EWBR wrote: | oasys76 wrote: | Karo support so much our Oasys with new libs!
hope now they working together with the Kronos, but it's maybe only a dream! -Oasys76 |
Hi oasys76,
It´ s not only a dream...
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This as great news! Any update on how it will work with Kronos 2GB RAM, does all the EXS:es have to be unloaded for the Symphonic Library to work? |
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burningbusch Approved Merchant
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1203 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't it be nice if close working relationship with Korg and the optimization noted above allowed the KARO libraries to be streamed from SSD?
I can dream.
Busch. |
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SpIdErWeB Full Member
Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 209 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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KARO go great stuff, but I won't buy them if they aren't fully supported as an real EXs with streaming from the SSD...
I keep saying Korg should release a SDK to allow great sound designers such Karo and so on, to build, release and sell new EXs for Oasys and Kronos.
Phil |
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medusaland Senior Member
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 293 Location: germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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SpIdErWeB wrote: | KARO go great stuff, but I won't buy them if they aren't fully supported as an real EXs with streaming from the SSD...
I keep saying Korg should release a SDK to allow great sound designers such Karo and so on, to build, release and sell new EXs for Oasys and Kronos.
Phil |
Hi there,
We are still in contact with the Korgies
let`s see what is going on into the future
Greetings,
Kurt
KARO sound development _________________ KRONOS & OASYS sound-design
http://www.karo-sounds.com |
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medusaland Senior Member
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 293 Location: germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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burningbusch wrote: | Wouldn't it be nice if close working relationship with Korg and the optimization noted above allowed the KARO libraries to be streamed from SSD?
I can dream.
Busch. |
We are also dreaming
Take care,
Kurt
KARO sound development
PS.: 14 KARO OASYS libraries.., optimized and ready to use in the "KRONOS" _________________ KRONOS & OASYS sound-design
http://www.karo-sounds.com |
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theshinenz Full Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:50 am Post subject: Price |
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Hi guys,
I am aware that karo does great sounds, but still think it's very expensive, yes an orchestra is expensive to rent but it's not just the orchestra sounds that seem excessive, none of the sound banks are. I think it's great that the sounds are being made and I will be purchasing a Kronos for sure but it would be good if there were programmers about supporting korg also like on the motifator site, it have no problem forking out $50 for a good bank of sounds but $100-$400 usd for samples? Get them all and you could of bought another workstation which at least has tangible value...are there any third parties out there supporting korg with sounds like the key fax site on motifator?
Cheers
Scott |
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Mike Conway Approved Merchant
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 2433 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Price |
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Song #2 just went up on Youtube (I'll edit my original post).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxscJe4Fmrc
theshinenz wrote: | have no problem forking out $50 for a good bank of sounds but $100-$400 usd for samples? |
These are certainly in line with lesser quality stuff like Roland's Symphonic Strings - only 64megs (!) for the Fantom. They list for $349 and still sell at Guitar Center, for $299. I have a Fantom and I still have this card.
Have you priced East/West or Vienna Symphonic?
I have 6 of the KARO libraries. Granted, they are pricey and I've had to use a couple of birthdays and Christmas holidays to obtain them. The cool thing is they are quirky and unique. I'm kind of hoping they stay that way.
On the other hand, Korg have some pretty good sounds from their EXB libraries (Choirs, Peter Siedlaczek orch. sounds, etc.) that I would love to see in Kronos. |
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medusaland Senior Member
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 293 Location: germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: Price |
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theshinenz wrote: | Hi guys,
I am aware that karo does great sounds, but still think it's very expensive, yes an orchestra is expensive to rent but it's not just the orchestra sounds that seem excessive, none of the sound banks are. I think it's great that the sounds are being made and I will be purchasing a Kronos for sure but it would be good if there were programmers about supporting korg also like on the motifator site, it have no problem forking out $50 for a good bank of sounds but $100-$400 usd for samples? Get them all and you could of bought another workstation which at least has tangible value...are there any third parties out there supporting korg with sounds like the key fax site on motifator?
Cheers
Scott |
Hi Scott,
Sorry but we are not a company like Korg, Roland or Yamaha! KARO are only a 4 man company and we have to split all the cost!
For example, the recording session of the Philharmonic Orchestra Mannheim cost us € 60.000 .- and that is quite a lot of money!
our libraries starts at 79, - €... if our libraries would offer cheaper, we could close the KARO doors! I hope you understand this situation...
Best regards,
Kurt
KARO sound development _________________ KRONOS & OASYS sound-design
http://www.karo-sounds.com |
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medusaland Senior Member
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 293 Location: germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Price |
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Mike Conway wrote: | Song #2 just went up on Youtube (I'll edit my original post).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxscJe4Fmrc
theshinenz wrote: | have no problem forking out $50 for a good bank of sounds but $100-$400 usd for samples? |
These are certainly in line with lesser quality stuff like Roland's Symphonic Strings - only 64megs (!) for the Fantom. They list for $349 and still sell at Guitar Center, for $299. I have a Fantom and I still have this card.
Have you priced East/West or Vienna Symphonic?
I have 6 of the KARO libraries. Granted, they are pricey and I've had to use a couple of birthdays and Christmas holidays to obtain them. The cool thing is they are quirky and unique. I'm kind of hoping they stay that way.
On the other hand, Korg have some pretty good sounds from their EXB libraries (Choirs, Peter Siedlaczek orch. sounds, etc.) that I would love to see in Kronos. |
Thank you Mike
Take care,
Kurt
KARO sound development _________________ KRONOS & OASYS sound-design
http://www.karo-sounds.com |
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theshinenz Full Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Price |
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Hi Kurt,
I understand somewhat, when producing sounds for the Oasys you have a lot smaller client base therefore you would need to have a hugher price to recoup the cost. Since Kronos was introduced a whole new market has appeared, one which wants the quality without the huge cost. Now you have the opportunity to quadruple + your sales whilst you won't have to outlay a much more as the sounds are already sampled, so I guess thats you're choice but you are cutting yourself out of a whole lot more buyers who are less likely to pay huge prices for samples than say the Oasys community where some might say money is no object. Just my opinio9n anyway.....
Cheers
Scott
Hi Scott,
Sorry but we are not a company like Korg, Roland or Yamaha! KARO are only a 4 man company and we have to split all the cost!
For example, the recording session of the Philharmonic Orchestra Mannheim cost us € 60.000 .- and that is quite a lot of money!
our libraries starts at 79, - €... if our libraries would offer cheaper, we could close the KARO doors! I hope you understand this situation...
Best regards,
Kurt
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Mike Conway Approved Merchant
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 2433 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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SONG #3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHD_WgzVPO0
All 3 are now on Youtube. (Check original post)
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sparkie Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:35 am Post subject: |
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€ 60.000 for orchestra studio rental = $83.000 US dollars.. ??
Sorry but, Karo created this for the Oasys & not for the Kronus, so why risk crashing your software or SSD drive paying $483 adding this to your new keyboard?
Korg I bet will release something soon for a reasonable price. They always do! |
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