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videorov
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 Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:50 am Post subject: Kronos what is the max Number of Polyphony notes |
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I don't see anything on that in their specs. Maybe they call it
some other name?
Also I guess you can load in a vocal track from a sound and could
play along with it like off a mpeg file etc from a USB drive. |
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mkpcola
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Your question has already been answered in the specs.
You better read the specs carefully..... |
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videorov
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| Must have missed it. |
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EvilDragon
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Melodialworks Music
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| I also seem to recall that this was discussed quite a bit early in one of the threads. Try the search function. (We do need an official FAQ, though. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Polyphony is dynamically allocated. If you look at the specs, they cover the maximum voices from a synth engine if that is the only synth engine playing.
If you're playing that many notes in the synth engine then you're using up 100% of the available processing power.
So of you see one engine with 50 notes, and another with 100 notes, then pressing one key on the first engine will take two notes remaining polyphony out of the other one.
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videorov
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:34 pm Post subject: I see the Clavinova cvp-509 has 128 +128-note polyphony |
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I found it in their specs now. It looks like they can combine engines
to handle more. |
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MartinHines
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: I see the Clavinova cvp-509 has 128 +128-note polyphony |
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| videorov wrote: | | I found it in their specs now. It looks like they can combine engines to handle more. |
Just the opposite is true; when multiple engines are running the maximum voice count in each engine drops.
The polyphony numbers listed on the specs represent the maximum for each engine if that engine was the only one playing. For example, if you were playing ONLY one of the SGX-1 pianos, your maximum voice count would te 100 "dual-stereo notes". If you were playing ONLY the EP-1 your max voice count would be 104. If you were playing two engines at the same time these numbers would go down.
The reason the use of multiple engines requires the processing resources be shared across all of the engines. If only one engine is running you get max power devoted to that engine.
From the specs:
-- SGX-1: 100 voices
-- EP-1: 104 voices
-- HD-1: 140 voices
-- AL-1: 80 voices
-- CX-3: 200 voices
-- STR-1: 40 voices
-- MOD-7: 52 voices
-- MS-20EX: 40 voices
-- PolysixEX: 180 voices
*1 Maximum polyphony depends on the kind of synthesis engines and the number of effects being used.
*2 Kronos dynamically allocates voices to multiple synthesis engines when they are used simultaneously.
*3 100 dual-stereo notes (It corresponds to 400 voices in the maximum.)
Finally, true polyphony -- i.e. the number of notes that can be sounded at the same time -- can vary based on how many simultaneous samples are being used/played at the same time. This is why all synth manufacturers usually give their polyphony figures in "voices", not notes. |
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X-Trade
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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so technically you could say the maximum polyphony of Kronos is 200 notes - based exclusively upon running just one instance of CX3.
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To get even more polyphony. Is it possible to disable the effects section and allow all engines to access processor power from both cores?
I plan to integrate Kronos in to Logic and use the effects there instead.
I prefer using same effect software for all my Software synths. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| robinkle wrote: | | To get even more polyphony. Is it possible to disable the effects section and allow all engines to access processor power from both cores? |
No. One core is strictly for sound generation, the other is strictly for FX processing. |
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robinkle
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| EvilDragon wrote: | | robinkle wrote: | | To get even more polyphony. Is it possible to disable the effects section and allow all engines to access processor power from both cores? |
No. One core is strictly for sound generation, the other is strictly for FX processing. |
You work for Korg? |
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| robinkle wrote: | | EvilDragon wrote: | | robinkle wrote: | | To get even more polyphony. Is it possible to disable the effects section and allow all engines to access processor power from both cores? |
No. One core is strictly for sound generation, the other is strictly for FX processing. |
You work for Korg? |
It has been answered by dan and rich somewhere here at the forums
EDIT: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2723766-KORG-KRONOS&p=42082929&viewfull=1#post42082929
Dan answered the same thing here but don't remember which post it was
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EvilDragon
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| robinkle wrote: | | EvilDragon wrote: | | robinkle wrote: | | To get even more polyphony. Is it possible to disable the effects section and allow all engines to access processor power from both cores? |
No. One core is strictly for sound generation, the other is strictly for FX processing. |
You work for Korg? |
I read this forum.  |
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robinkle
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| EvilDragon wrote: | | robinkle wrote: | | EvilDragon wrote: | | robinkle wrote: | | To get even more polyphony. Is it possible to disable the effects section and allow all engines to access processor power from both cores? |
No. One core is strictly for sound generation, the other is strictly for FX processing. |
You work for Korg? |
I read this forum. |
Answer the question. |
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