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danatkorg Product Manager, Korg R&D
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 4204 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Citizen Klaus wrote: |
That being said, you make a good point. The Kronos will have a lot of variety for one machine, especially if you're interested in the iconic keyboard instruments (piano, organ, etc.). But it's still a Korg through and through -- it's not trying to be chameleonic like the Solaris.
In particular, that Korg character will come through in the filters. Granted, there's quite a bit of difference between those in the MS-20 and the Polysix, but they're still clearly within the same extended family -- each sounds more like each other than like the filter from a Prophet, say, or a Moog.
Of course, there are tricks one can exploit to make the Korg filters a bit more imitative of those on other instruments -- routing the RADIAS' overdrive to "pre-filter" being one of my favorites, for a hint of that Mini edge. And I'm personally of the opinion that tone debates can get a bit precious... |
I'll leave it to individuals to decide on how different the resulting sounds are, but under the hood the MS-20EX, PolysixEX, and AL-1 filters really are quite different. Personally I don't find the MS-20EX to be remotely similar to the PolysixEX. Not too surprising, since the original Polysix used an SSM filter similar to rev 1/2 Prophet-5s, whereas the MS-20 used first a Korg proprietary chip, and then a version of the same circuit using off-the-shelf parts. Not to mention that the PolysixEX is four-pole LP, while MS-20EX has two-pole LP as well as HP of course.
AL-1 is a third and different beast altogether. The filters are very clean, even at high resonances (unlike the PolysixEX and MS-20EX), and the resonance characteristics (most noticable with high resonance at low frequencies) can be switched between mini and Prophet characteristics. Then of course you have all the choices of 2-pole, 4-pole, "multifilter" which mixes simultaneous taps from LP/HP/BP etc. _________________ Dan Phillips
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Citizen Klaus Full Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 171 Location: Bloomington, IN
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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danatkorg wrote: | I'll leave it to individuals to decide on how different the resulting sounds are, but under the hood the MS-20EX, PolysixEX, and AL-1 filters really are quite different. Personally I don't find the MS-20EX to be remotely similar to the PolysixEX. Not too surprising, since the original Polysix used an SSM filter similar to rev 1/2 Prophet-5s, whereas the MS-20 used first a Korg proprietary chip, and then a version of the same circuit using off-the-shelf parts. Not to mention that the PolysixEX is four-pole LP, while MS-20EX has two-pole LP as well as HP of course.
AL-1 is a third and different beast altogether. The filters are very clean, even at high resonances (unlike the PolysixEX and MS-20EX), and the resonance characteristics (most noticable with high resonance at low frequencies) can be switched between mini and Prophet characteristics. Then of course you have all the choices of 2-pole, 4-pole, "multifilter" which mixes simultaneous taps from LP/HP/BP etc. |
Dan:
That's an interesting detail about the adjustable resonance in the AL-1 filter section. Somehow, I missed that when going through the manual, and assumed that the AL-1's filter was basically the same as the RADIAS', with the exception of the "multifilter" option.
Ultimately, I wasn't trying to pass judgement on the versatility of the Kronos' synthesis options. I was just anticipating the probably-inevitable comments about how someone can't get the Kronos to sound exactly like the vintage Type D that he has on a stand in his studio.
For my purposes, I've been quite happy with the RADIAS and the Legacy Collection. But, as I noted before, I'm not particularly particular about tone. |
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jemkeys25 Full Member
Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Posts: 243
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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never go with just one board,always have at least 2 for backup, you never know when a board can go down, what 2 you want is up to you, but a kronos for one ain't to bad. |
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synthguy Platinum Member
Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 661
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:32 am Post subject: |
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danatkorg wrote: | AL-1 is a third and different beast altogether. The filters are very clean, even at high resonances (unlike the PolysixEX and MS-20EX), and the resonance characteristics (most noticable with high resonance at low frequencies) can be switched between mini and Prophet characteristics... |
Did you say... Mini and Prophet characteristics?? *interest piqued*
I've had a blast creating rough emulations of vintage synths on my Origin for three weeks, but I've wanted to get my hands on AL-1 ever since I heard of it. And only now I'm leaning this?!
Oh well, one more reason to be lusting after this beastie. I can never have enough synthesizer types running at once. _________________ PRAY FOR THIS PLANET!! |
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