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RichF · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:59 am Post subject: New sound demos available!

Hi everyone,

We just posted a bunch of new audio demos on korg.com/kronos. Just click on the "Hear Kronos" button to check them out. They're played by the master himself, Jack Hotop. Smile

They're streaming MP3 files, but we also included downloadable 24-bit .WAV files that are direct from the Kronos.

Expect a couple more demos (SGX-1) coming up in the next few days.

Hope you enjoy them!

-Rich
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Rosen Sound · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:16 am Post subject:

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billysynth1 · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:58 am Post subject:

Hi Rich

Thanks for the Demo's, are these played live without multitrack recordings...i mean is it just karma/drums, the natural combi itself nothing external?

Some of these combi's are magnificent if its just drumtrack or karma or both. All example instruments were excellent.

So we can play these in the stock combi's ready to go?

Regards
Billy
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EnjoyRC · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject:

Ok.. I'm not waiting any longer.. I'm getting on a flight today and flying there to pick mine up NOW.
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RichF · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:01 pm Post subject:

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

There's A LOT I like in these demos.

Besides some very nice sounds it's the overall sound quality which is really outstanding for my ears. I also liked the fretless sample in one of the demos, the acoustic and steal strings guitars, some of the VA sounds etc.

Allow me few(!) critical remarks:
- the CX3 is ok, but hardly more in my ears. Full drawbars, high ranges, and Leslie sound quite artificial to me and lack too much of the sound quality of a real B3. Software clones like NI B4 and VB3 or Hardware clones like those from Clavia, followed by Hammond, sound considerably closer to me.

EPianos:
I'm glad I could hear the "George Duke" patch in high quality. It clearly shows what I like and what I dislike about the Kronos EP-modelling: on one hand, the sound is crystal clear, has a very good sustain and high dynamics. On the other hand, it does not sound like ANY real Rhodes in the high ranges. It has a highly unnatural thin tine sound with an overproportinal bell character of the powerless music box kind.
The orginal George Duke sound, which is the basis for this sound, is a custom Rhodes with hard rubber hammer tips up to the upper ranges (instead of the conventional ones), which George has used for many years. But while his bell tone sounds hard, brillant and agressive, the Kronos Duke Rhodes just sounds like the mentioned thin music box tines.

This doesn't really cause a headache on my side, because my impression from other Kronos Rhodes examples is that you can also get a more natural sounding "real Rhodes" sound from this extension. But it is certainly not sounding good anytime anyway.

Similar with the "McComb reed" Epiano: no bad sound, but no Wurlitzer in the world sounds like that: it's an artificial Pseudo-Wurly sound.

I'm a bit over-sensitive concerning EPiano sounds, so don't take the criticism more serious than I do. I'm quite confident to get fine EP-sounds from this expansion, it's just that some of the presets don't really convince me. And whenever I miss a certain "real" EP sound, I can still use regular samples.

Despite this criticism in detail I'm higly impressed by the overall Kronos sound and patch qualilty as far as I heard it, and I encourage Korg staff to provide more of that kind: we all enjoy that during waiting time!
Thank you very much!

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SpIdErWeB · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:26 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the demos...
Sounds good to me, except for the Guitars I'm not really convinced.

For the rest, it's all good Smile

Phil

aron · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:35 pm Post subject:

The low end is incredible. I love the sound! The Polysix never sounded so good!

Thanks

Aron
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rrricky rrrecordo · Senior Member Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 448

The 200A in the Mccomb demo kinda gets buried; it would be nice to hear it as a solo instrument. I have two Wurlie 206As (the 206A is a 200A built into a spinet console with speakers, designed for the 70s classroom music lab market). The demo I hear doesn't have the thwonk or sparkle of either of them, but these elements may be masked in the mix. Pretty good nonetheless.

I like the George Duke Rhodes. I don't own a Rhodes so can't speak to its authenticity, and again the mix gets in the way for me, but it's a sound that I like.

The STR guitar - well, ya just gotta start with an open EADGBE strum, now dontcha... almost any sound evokes a guitar with this "chord". The model seems very responsive, but the player in this demo whacks the model pretty hard throughout, and ends up putting out some strident, harsh tones that I cannot associate with any acoustic guitar I've played. Still, there are moments where I hear some nice tones at lower velocities. The perfect pitch bends in the intro though scream "fakin' a guitar sound here!!!"... ease off on the whammy wheel, caress the keys and you may have something! I hear great potential in this patch.

Did I miss the solo acoustic grand pianos and their natural dynamic range?

Much more to come, no doubt...

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aron · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:34 am Post subject:

Good points!
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rrricky rrrecordo · Senior Member Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 448

Of course in the demo we also hear some things that the original PolySix was unable to accomplish - multitimbrality, autopanning, ambience unlike that which the original PolySix exuded. Still awesome though, I like it a lot Very Happy

Akos Janca · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:48 am Post subject:

Thank you, Rich - with regards to Jack, of course - for the demos.

My favourites are the "VCF Circuits", "Vocal Wash" and "Sunset Split" but I think they all give good foretaste of the sonic possibilities and show the outstanding quality very well. I agree in some points with Jim and Ricky above (regarding the difficulties of imitating real instruments) - but the Kronos engines, the sounds, the effects, the magic of KARMA are all there truly shining in these live demos. It's a fantastic instrument.

So far I think I can achieve very similar results with my OASYS. (Especially if I buy the great MOD-7 and LAC-1 - but I won't until I try Kronos.) I'm waiting for the mentioned SGX-1 demos.

My advice is for listeners: download the WAV files. It worths it.

Question: In OASYS I can bounce 16-bit 48 kHz WAVs. The Kronos demos are 24-bit but 44.1 kHz. There is no 48 kHz bouncing in Kronos?
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