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jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

Must have been converted, I guess.

The Kronos specs say 24bit 48 kHz.

Akos Janca · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:55 am Post subject:

Yes, but the description of the demos says:
"Each WAV was recorded to the Kronos SSD at 24-bit, 44.1kHz"

From Kronos specs:
• Sampling is: 16-bit/48 kHz.
• Digital inputs and outputs are: 24-bit/48 kHz.
• Audio tracks can be: 16bit/24bit WAVs. (44.1 or 48 kHz? not specified)

So, where is 44.1 kHz?
If sampling is 16-bit/48 kHz then recording (bouncing) is using a different method: 24-bit/44.1 kHz?
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ScoobyDoo555 · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:09 pm Post subject:

Thanks for posting the updates.

Some of the demos are right up my street - quite inspirational (already!)
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Bertotti · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:56 pm Post subject:

WOW! you guys don't miss a thing do you! I'm impressed! Very Happy

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

You're right, Akos.

Then there's only two possibilities left:
- a typo or
- different specs than we thought so far.

I normally record at 44.1 kHz, by the way, so these specs would be welcome here.

sparkie · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:55 pm Post subject:

Here is the direct link..

http://www.korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=598

Wave Sequencing YES! Very Happy

I said over 2 years ago they should add this on a synth again! My ears twitter listening to "Sunset Split" ! Kalimba Yes!! Brass & Guitar ..uh just so-so.

jerrythek · Platinum Member Joined: 28 Jan 2002 Posts: 2931

Many Korg keyboards have offered CD-burning as an onboard function, so of course they can support the sample rate conversion from 48 to 44.1kHZ. We first did it with the TRITON Studio...

The Sample Edit Mode offers a command called Rate Convert...

These demos were 2-channel mixed to disk which will be recorded at 48 kHz, you can choose either 16 or 24-bit recording. Then you can later perform a Rate Convert command on the file on the disk. So likely that's what happened. And it can all be done on the KRONOS itself.

Akos Janca · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:08 pm Post subject:

Thank you, Jerry, maybe that happened. But then why they converted the 48 kHz recording to (a bit worse) 44.1? It was created for download not for burning a CD.
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jerrythek · Platinum Member Joined: 28 Jan 2002 Posts: 2931

Good question... Rich will have to answer that...

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Akos Janca · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:55 pm Post subject:

No, Ozy, I don't think so. The demos are not CD-ready industrial standard format. They are 24-bit (according to explanation but I haven't checked).

Update: I checked. The demos are 24-bit/44.1 kHz.
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DaveBoulden · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:46 pm Post subject:

Looks like two SGX-1 demos have been uploaded.... and are sounding gorgeous to my ears!

rrricky rrrecordo · Senior Member Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 448

Nice, the best Korg pianos I've heard.

Mr. ppp isn't convinced by the softer tones though. No depth. They don't breathe - they sound like a series of piano note photos (well snapped but maybe too many highs... perhaps a tweak of the filter envs can tame these). So do most other sampled pianos. These demos showcase some pretty great sampled pianos though.

I bet that when played live alongside them noisy guitar bass and drum whackers, you'd be heard.

PipeDream SGX-1 demo:

Duelling SGX-1s, four of them:

jerryleethek fires up a rockin' reelin' rollin' groove. Dan arrives, (late for the gig because he's been thoughtfully answering posts here), sits down with his pipe, fires it up, and begins to poke and peek out a beautifully constructed melody, which quickly transforms into a fiery leave-no-keys-unburned solo... so on it goes until jerryleethek and Dan drop it right down to ppp, at which point Stephen (who has been there all along, but has been busy programming a series of piano-based GEs after quickly analyzing jerryleethek's first riff) hits the KARMA button and sends the jam off into outer space. Peter calls up the RelativelySpeakingRelativityIsRelative ambient piano patch he has just finished creating, and parallel piano universes are discovered.

Pianos being played just for the sheer joy of playing pianos.

peter_schwartz · Full Member Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 206

Akos Janca · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:07 pm Post subject:

Thank you for the new demos.

I don't understand how the demos were recorded directly at 24-bit/44.1 kHz. Will somebody from Korg please explain:

1. The sampling is 16-bit/48 kHz (like the internal bouncing in OASYS). In Kronos is recording an improved process for 24-bit?

2. Why 44.1 kHz when Kronos can record at 48 kHz?

Thank you in advance.
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