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peter_schwartz · Full Member Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 206

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(why bother)

ozy · Guest

This thread is exhausted according to Godwin's Law:

Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] which has become an Internet adage.

It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."[3][2]

Given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope— someone inevitably criticizes some point made in the discussion by comparing it to beliefs held by Hitler and the Nazis.

Godwin's law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread Reductio ad Hitlerum form.

The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses.

It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.

Although in one of its early forms Godwin's law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions,[5] the law is now often applied to any threaded online discussion, such as forums, chat rooms and blog comment threads, and has been invoked for the inappropriate use of Nazi analogies in articles or speeches.[6]

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cello · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:10 pm Post subject:

Well, I'm a native English speaker and have to say that I find "crude, but effective" in the context of a killing machine whilst perhaps technically accurate is rather tasteless and unnecessary.

The word 'effective' in this context suggests that the purpose was to kill as many Japanese people as possible.

Given the monumental distress and hardship these people are having to go through just now, I just don't think there is any need or justification to go into past territory that is somewhat outwith the reasonable realms of a keyboard forum.

This is what despair looks like (I think it's one of the most desperate pictures I've seen) - it's one thing to have it happen because of nature - it is quite another to have it happen throught man's intent to efficiently kill.

Wonder how her day is going today? How about yours peter_schwartz?

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peter_schwartz · Full Member Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 206

How about not over-reacting, over-reaching, and actually reading what I wrote in response to Akos? Hey, there's a novel freekin' idea -- actually reading.

I also think it's worth mentioning what an honorable thing it was for you to do to attempt to (poorly) make your point by capitalizing on the misery of that poor woman.

Here, I've quoted if for you:

ozy · Guest

peter,

pipe down.

seriously.

you're making an ass of yourself

peter_schwartz · Full Member Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 206

Ozy, you are the pot calling the kettle black, aren't you?

ozy · Guest

try calming down, and try reading the posts before commenting them.

McHale · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:11 pm Post subject:

I must be thick because while I agree the thread has basically gotten off topic, it's been a friendly debate. There's no name calling, religion or region bashing, and nobody has even used all caps yet. And to be honest, the OP is a legitimate question that I'm sure many are asking about this and other products. There's been some real intelligent discussion about product safety and nuclear half lives in here...

Let it run it's course.
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jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

Yes, the debate is looking more friendly and understanding each day.

sarcastic mode off ...

ozy · Guest

Well, at least now Korg users have something they always envied to Yamaha users:

Motifator-style debates Wink

jemkeys25 · Full Member Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Posts: 243

guys,guys, calm down,

I wish kronos would get here.

Apresmidi2010 · Junior Member Joined: 14 Feb 2011 Posts: 59

Kronos was scheduled to be out here in Japan April 9, but now postponed to somewhere in May.

Japanese government is considering issuing a certificate saying that the certified product is not produced/manufactured in the areas affected by Fukushima radios. Of course, the cert relies on the statements from producers/manufacturers themselves. Aside from that, since most of importers from Japan require radio tests before shipment, most of exporters are trying to do that in vain - no such facility to accommodate every exports. This could result in choking up Japan really, no substantial export being made from here. Kronos could be one of those. Check with Korg people here.

Whatelse to report.... In Tokyo, water tastes like containing something I do not know, but I am still living. We do know the water is already contaminated (though very mildly) and we have hour to hour/day to day report from Metropolitan Governor about the degree of air and water contamination. So we are living with radios and it would continue for another 5 to 10 years, according to what experts say.

Unfortunately, plutonium was found at the site. So there is high possibility of the reactor being cracked (another possibility is leak from joints of pipes). Enormous amount of very highly contaminated water was found from the underground and tanks around reactors. I had a fear that they would dump that massive water (like 10,000t) into the ocean, but seems like Japanese are a bit more sensitive people - now they are talking about using old tankers to contain them.

There is no immediate prospectus to end radios. Sorry for that.

You guys figured out if Kronos is assembled in Japan? In Inagi? That is the first question to be solved.

ozy · Guest

Akos Janca · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:43 am Post subject:

Dear Apresmidi2010,

Thank you for first-hand report. I wish you and your family all the best.

Hungary has a good relationship with Japan. I have nice personal experiences with Japanese, too, from the past and also the present. I've been there already.

My thoughts are with you.

Best regards,

Akos
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