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RC-IA Approved Merchant
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder why the Earthquake and the yen exchange rate would affect europe and others regions and not USA? |
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2979 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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RC-IA wrote: | I wonder why the Earthquake and the yen exchange rate would affect europe and others regions and not USA? |
The price was announced in USA *before* the earthquake. _________________ Stephen Kay - KARMA Developer • Karma-Lab - karma-lab.com
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ozy Guest
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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well, the whole thing doesn't make any economical sense.
since the earthquake, the yen value has been falling both againt the us$ dollar and the euro and the pound
which means that both in Europe and in USA, Korg is earning more yen [their currency] now,
then it was before the earthquake.
Which means that they'd have no problem leaving BOTH prices unchanged, and still earn MORE money.
OR they could give incentives to the wholesalers.
The earthquake has probably to do with unavailable compoents (it's happening with cars). Not to mention energy, shipping disruption, etc.
The earthquake may account for the DELIVERY delay,
but IMHO has nothing to do with PRICE announcements. |
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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ozy wrote: | since the earthquake, the yen value has been falling both againt the us$ dollar and the euro and the pound |
That's correct, meaning that if it kept falling, they could lower the price and make it more attractive.
However, recently it's turned around again, so they're waiting to see what ahppens.
Quote: | The earthquake may account for the DELIVERY delay,
but IMHO has nothing to do with PRICE announcements. |
Well, you can opine all you want, but I've heard that that's what's going on. And someone else reported in my Kronos forums:
Quote: | Due to the earthquake in Japan and the Yen rising, Korg Japan hasn't completed transfer price discussion with Korg distributers in Europe yet. I got this info from Andreas Gundlach during the Musikmesse. |
_________________ Stephen Kay - KARMA Developer • Karma-Lab - karma-lab.com
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2979 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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StephenKay wrote: | RC-IA wrote: | I wonder why the Earthquake and the yen exchange rate would affect europe and others regions and not USA? |
The price was announced in USA *before* the earthquake. |
What I meant was, perhaps they wouldn't have announced the price in the USA either yet if the earthquake had happened before NAMM.
The yen exchange rate absolutely does affect the price in the USA. I guess Korg doesn't want to commit to a price and then have to change it after the fact. I don't know.... but I have heard that the reason has to do with the yen exchange rate. You can all believe me, or not.... _________________ Stephen Kay - KARMA Developer • Karma-Lab - karma-lab.com
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McHale Platinum Member
Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 2487 Location: B.F.E.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be OK if they shipped it now and billed me later.... _________________ Current Korg Gear: KRONOS 88 (4GB), M50-73 (PS mod), RADIAS-73, Electribe MX, Triton Pro (MOSS, SCSI, CF, 64MB RAM), SQ-64, DVP-1, MEX-8000, MR-1, KAOSSilator, nanoKey, nanoKontrol, 3x nanoPad 2, 3x DS1H, 7x PS1, FC7 (yes Korg, NOT Yamaha). |
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:17 pm Post subject: Update info for the netherlands |
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Two dutch sites:
http://www.oostendorp-muziek.nl/Korg_Kronos_61_25260.html
Dutch:
De prijs van de Korg Kronos wordt waarschijnlijk de laatste week van juni 2011 bekend gemaakt. Er is weer vertraging opgetreden door de problemen in Japan. U kunt ons een email sturen dan houden we u op de hoogte hiervan: info@oostendorp-muziek.nl. De eerste Korg Kronos wordt naar verwachting voor het eerst uitgeleverd in juli/augustus. Wij blijven nauw in contact met onze leverancier om u zoveel mogelijk up-to-date te houden.
My English translation:
The price of the Korg Kronos 61 will be revealed probably in the lsat week of June 2011. There has been another delay due to the problems in Japan. You can send us a mail for keeping you informed about this: info@oostendor-muziek.nl. The first Korg Kronos is expected to be delived in July/August. We have narrow contacts with our supplieri to have you updated as much as possible.
Another shop:
http://www.bax-shop.nl/workstation/korg-kronos-61-synthesizer-workstation/product-details.html
Expected in 11 weeks
i.e.: Same as last week(s). _________________
Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/ |
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RC-IA Approved Merchant
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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StephenKay wrote: | StephenKay wrote: | RC-IA wrote: | I wonder why the Earthquake and the yen exchange rate would affect europe and others regions and not USA? |
The price was announced in USA *before* the earthquake. |
What I meant was, perhaps they wouldn't have announced the price in the USA either yet if the earthquake had happened before NAMM.
The yen exchange rate absolutely does affect the price in the USA. I guess Korg doesn't want to commit to a price and then have to change it after the fact. I don't know.... but I have heard that the reason has to do with the yen exchange rate. You can all believe me, or not.... |
If i was a bad guy i would say that it seems, with the info we have today (it may change) that europeans are going to pay a lot more to keep the US price at what it was announced in january (this same price was announced too in france )! There is surely more important things in the life, but that's not fair: the question is who is responsible for this: korg Inc or european distributors? |
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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RC-IA wrote: | If i was a bad guy i would say that it seems, with the info we have today (it may change) that europeans are going to pay a lot more to keep the US price at what it was announced in january (this same price was announced too in france )! |
Always a conspiracy.... _________________ Stephen Kay - KARMA Developer • Karma-Lab - karma-lab.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Conspiracy is an american tradition
I know you are not laughing |
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jimknopf Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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No conspiracy and no tragedy for customers.
It's just about buying or not buying a device.
But IMHO bad marketing towards Europeans since January anyway:
- no equal treatment of Europeans at Namm announcements
- no quality videos from otherwise fine Musikmesse demo shows
- no price announcements until end of June (!!!)
- no delivery dates, not even corrected estimated ones
In big German musician forums there's meanwhile more talk and hype around the JP80 than around the Kronos. Was that the intention?
All in all:
- big strategy (making exactly which sense???)?
- weird?
- amateurish?
Whatever: nothing essential, but not making much sense either from my view. And my first growing bad Korg experience as potential customer, after very good experiences with the presence of Dan and Rich in here. |
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Bertotti Platinum Member
Joined: 10 Jul 2010 Posts: 3384 Location: Middle of nowhere
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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You guys won't be so upset once they come and tell us they are raising our prices 1500 or so because of the economy and disasters and oil and well everything. |
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Pepperpotty Moderator
Joined: 31 Dec 2010 Posts: 1308 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Remember, "Prepare to be amazed". Well I've been prepared for 3 months now! All the speculating over what the "9" on the Korg site meant. Here's me thinking it stood for the 9 synth engines when all along it stood for 9 months until release. Since it was first posted in January, that means the Kronos should be released in October! Amazing! |
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nowtime Full Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Pepperpotty wrote: | Remember, "Prepare to be amazed". Well I've been prepared for 3 months now! All the speculating over what the "9" on the Korg site meant. Here's me thinking it stood for the 9 synth engines when all along it stood for 9 months until release. Since it was first posted in January, that means the Kronos should be released in October! Amazing! |
"Prepare to be prepared..." |
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robinkle Senior Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 382 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:00 am Post subject: |
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nowtime wrote: | Pepperpotty wrote: | Remember, "Prepare to be amazed". Well I've been prepared for 3 months now! All the speculating over what the "9" on the Korg site meant. Here's me thinking it stood for the 9 synth engines when all along it stood for 9 months until release. Since it was first posted in January, that means the Kronos should be released in October! Amazing! |
"Prepare to be prepared..." |
"Prepare to Prepare to Prepare to be prepared" |
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