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[mackbaz]

Let me clarify that its POTENTIALLY damaging. I have faith in Korg for this one. Its a huge product launch. But I just wanted to bring awareness to the possibility.

[Davidb]

[Kontrol49]

Wait a minute.........


Hold on......


I've had a thought.............

Never mind the RH3 keys,How long will the Screen last for...You people should hold off buying a Kronos,just incase the Screen dies!!FFS







Dare I say this thread(like the one in the SV forum) is going to cause more people to be picky than would have previously even bothered about the RH3 keybeds and the minimal people who have experienced issues.

Rest assured,for every defective unit,there will be several thousand happy customers with no problems!!Korg will honour any repairs inside the warranty.

THe SV1 I have does have gaps between keys(which are normally between the last B and first C keys on every octave)woopy do,its a fantastic feel and action irrespective I'm more than happy with the RH3 keybeds so if your getting an improved version whats there to be worried about??

I've not had a problem with the mechanism nor any problems with the spacings,which if it wasn't for the Scaremongering thread in the SV forum,I would have never even thought about..infact I never even think about it till threads like these!

So for those with reservations,make your own mind up when it arrives and if theres a problem your warranty will cover it.the damn thing hasn't even been shipped yet and already there are people fretting over its construction???




Wait....


Hold on...

Is the pitchstick durable enough???
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[mackbaz]

[operaman]

[Kontrol49]

Dan has already said they are using different components,which were probably the parts causing an issue or at least to those few units that were found to be faulty

You've had 2 RH3 keybeds both had issues,why are you contemplating buying another synth with one fitted and just because you had faults doesn't mean everyone else will???but your putting fire amongst the flames of Kronos owners/Buyers who are going to read this thread and have psychological doubts now,simply on this basis alone.When they unbox the first thing there going to do is check the keybed for faults???

Like I've said the RH3 does have gaps,but none that would really see me screaming to Korg its a design fault or I may have a law suit against them for fear of not being able to play the SV because I'm scared of my hand falling into that gap..

I also recall a thread in here some years back where some guy complained about the mechanical noise from the semi weighted keys claiming it stopped him playing because all he could think about when using headphones was the keys were making a clicking noise to some degree,suddenly there were several other replies from owners claiming they had faulty keybeds!!!!Well do the maths!!!!

I see the wear and tear on instruments are as much about how they are treated as it is design flaws,and if Korg have admitted its a design flaw why are they not replacing said components on all units sold.

if it was a car it would be recalled and the design removed from manufacturing seems like Korg are simply just upgrading existing parts not removing a faulty design per se,your just severly unlucky to have had 2 same faults on 2 keybeds given the probability and amount of SV1's made or your simply just picky or looking for issues that don't exist except in your own mind!!!Do you suffer from OCD???or it may have been done during transit

How I see it your simply once bitten twice shy,so why even think about another RH3 unit,your always going to have that Psychological doubt because of your connection with the keybeds bury it and forget it,see what the new units are like but don't pass judgement or sow the seed of doubt,I suspect many Kronos buyers never even seen the SV forum thread about the RH3 beds anyway so were perhaps none the wiser

I've owned 30-35 Korg synthesizers since 1989 those bought new have never ever had an issue with anything infact I've never had to use the warranty so why would the Quality control at Korg suddenly be an issue now... your always going to get a few dodgy units in a batch of thousands youve just been rather unlucky
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[mackbaz]

[Devnor]

Maybe take a chill-pill Kontrol49 nobody is telling anyone not to buy Korg LOL. Fact is there some pretty gnarly examples floating around out there. I could stick quarters between some of the SV1 keys and while that's okay for a nice old piano, not so much with Kronos 88. Its not completely unreasonable to assure the pre-order Kronos buyers that their boards will not suffer the same fate. Dan directly answered my questions and I'm satisfied.
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[Kontrol49]

[Bertotti]

I am glad of this post becasue I like to hear the good and bad. 3500+ is a butt load of cash and a wise buyer knows all the pros and cons. I for one am happy for the info, especially with the reply Dan gave that alone should take care fo any immediate concerns but as always buyer beware. Sadly I will never get to try a Kronos first so this is all very helpful to me. And even after reading this thread I am on the list for a 61 and 88, I just need to decide which to go with becasue "there can be only one"!

[orpheus2006]

My M3-88 keybed doesn't have problems with clicking noise (like the SV-1 issues demonstrated by mackbaz). I assume this is not a general RH3 problem.

The spacing between keys is not hyper-accurate, it could be better. But practically this is not a problem at all.
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[AK-Jake]

I bought my Triton LE 88 brand-new and used it for 2 years. I never had a single problem with its RH-3 keybed. I then bought a used Triton Extreme 88 from Guitar Center, where it had spent its entire life sitting on a shelf as a demo, being absolutely assaulted, tortured, mashed and mangled by mobs of people for 4 solid years. It made no clicks, clacks, or other than normal noises, and it felt just as solid and tight as it did new. I was shocked at how well it played, as was the lady I sold it to. I miss it greatly, though I love my Tritron Extreme 76.

Personally, I prefer the feel of the Roland Fantom G8's keybed to Korg's RH-3, however, I never had any problems with my Korg weighted keybeds. I suspect the above-mentioned issues are dealing with the SV-1 keybed in particular (thanks for the heads-up on that, as I may not purchase one now), and I in no way worry about that being the case for the Kronos. I intend to purchase a Kronos 73 the very second I am physically able to do so.
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[EXer]

Are all the Korg keyboards called 'RH3' which you can find in digital pianos, SV1, M3 and Kronos really the same?

Or is 'RH3' a generic name for several *different* keyboards?

Were will the Kronos RH3 keyboard be made?

[mackbaz]

Well I am happy to see there are a few people speaking up about their positives with the RH3 on other keyboards. I would say the Kronos has a better chance of not having the issues. I'm just wondering what's so different about the chassis of the sv-1 to cause the issues.

I still have one reservation.. and that is that the Kronos is the next keyboard to follow the sv-1 in using the RH3. If for some reason they began to skimp on the quality of the keybed, there is a chance for it to still be present. Let's hope Dan's information does reflect a resolution.

[Kontrol49]