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ozy Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Akos Janca wrote: | random startup tip would be useful. "Did you know...?" - followed by an explanation or excerpt from the manual. |
I think that should be a permanent feature, not limited to the 2-minutes startup.
for example, every time you load a "SAX" patch, a pop-up window should open and say... "Saxophone was invented by Adolfe Sachs in the early 19th century".
Or you could load a "pad", and you could get useful tips: "don't use this pad for your mouse, ha ha "
Smiling emoticons should be optional though. I hate them. |
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ScoobyDoo555 Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 840 Location: Herefordshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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could always have music with accompanying graphics.......
Anybody remember this?
_________________ Yamaha SY77 & KX88, SSL Nucleus, Korg Kronos 61, Wavestation A/D, Access Virus B, Roland XP30, DeepMind12D, System 1m, V-Synth XT, Focusrite Red16Line, Unitor 8, Akai S3000 XL, Alesis Quadraverb+, Focal Shape Twins, Full fat iMac, Logic Pro X, ProTools 2021, loadsa plugins.
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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ScoobyDoo555 wrote: | could always have music with accompanying graphics.......
Anybody remember this?
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thats from an Atari game, Star Raiders.
What do I win ? a free Kronos ? _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams
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ScoobyDoo555 Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 840 Location: Herefordshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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computer says "no".......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JwmZygqa_0&feature=related _________________ Yamaha SY77 & KX88, SSL Nucleus, Korg Kronos 61, Wavestation A/D, Access Virus B, Roland XP30, DeepMind12D, System 1m, V-Synth XT, Focusrite Red16Line, Unitor 8, Akai S3000 XL, Alesis Quadraverb+, Focal Shape Twins, Full fat iMac, Logic Pro X, ProTools 2021, loadsa plugins.
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Akos Janca Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 1158 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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ozy wrote: | Akos Janca wrote: | random startup tip would be useful. "Did you know...?" - followed by an explanation or excerpt from the manual. |
I think that should be a permanent feature, not limited to the 2-minutes startup.
for example, every time you load a "SAX" patch, a pop-up window should open and say... "Saxophone was invented by Adolfe Sachs in the early 19th century".
Or you could load a "pad", and you could get useful tips: "don't use this pad for your mouse, ha ha "
Smiling emoticons should be optional though. I hate them. |
Yes, I normally don't like startup tips - and turn them off immediately for ever - because they appear when the program is already loaded and ready to use. But in this case we have approx. 2 minutes for booting. Enough to read and understand a tip. Enough to learn something new. It's better than wasting this time and simply waiting, not? _________________ AkosJanca.com | Facebook | YouTube | SoundCloud | FuturePlant || OASYS-demos | nanoROCK demo | Korg Band in the Garage demo | Kronos Demo 1 | Kronos Demo 2 |
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sparkie Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 743 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:16 am Post subject: |
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No Answer??
Does anyone know how many "new" Combis and programs are pre- loaded on the Kronos that are not currently on the Oasys?..or approximate?? C'mon people.
I have an answer for the 2 min startup...pick one.
A) Play a video of Jordan Rudess shaving his head
B) Play a video of a current Geico commercial
c) Video of a Jane Fonda workout video
D) Watch a black bar draw a line from left to right and say "Loading"
E) Sound Samples of kids practicing their Piano lessons
F) Seeing a Professor in Physics explain nuclear fission
G) Watch a Doctor explain what all is involved in using a proctoscope
H) Play 10 different random sound clips of Top Movies or famous composers.
AHA I pick H.. |
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KorgPH
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 13
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:09 am Post subject: Re: Kronus.. PROS and COns |
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GregC wrote: | apex wrote: | GregC wrote: |
Pros:
its not a Motif
its not a Kurzweil
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ah ha... but you didn't say Fantom G. Finally the Fantom gets the respect it deserves!!!! |
hah ! I completely forgot about it
Not sure thats respect
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I strongly doubt it too. |
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RKfan Senior Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2011 Posts: 402 Location: Cambridge, England
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Pros: Loads of sound engines, some improved over the Oasys (if Gordon Reid is correct in Sound on Sound), lots of toys to play with.
Cons (potential): some I have heard or read about, some that may have already been fixed (and some we can live with).
(1) with all EXis loaded it takes more than 2 mins to boot (it will be longer if you fill up the remaining memory with your own sounds because they have to be loaded - answer just load what you want) - I think this could be fixed for the English with a simple message "I'd go and make a cup of tea if I were you mate!"
(2) With all EXis loaded you have about 9% of total RAM (148MB/2GB) left for sampling, recording audio etc. (does this affect the sequencer and Karma capacity too?) - might be fixed with an OS and memory upgrade - again you dont have to load everything (think that's possible).
(3) Buttons - apparently make a satisfying click - might however be wobbly - from pictures I think they look a bit narrow - might feel strange but could get used to it.
(4) Size of fonts - some complaints - others say its OK - again if a real issue probably quite easy to fix.
In the end it comes down to the sounds you want to make. Although I am impressed by the Supernatural violin and brass models on the Jupiter 80 and (I personally) have not heard anything as good (as those instruments) on the Kronos, they are not sounds I want to make (I think synths should sound like synths) so personally still more sold on the Kronos. Just waiting for the final "finance" issue to be resolved. |
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Shakil Platinum Member
Joined: 08 Jan 2002 Posts: 1169 Location: New Jersey, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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RKfan wrote: | With all EXis loaded you have about 9% of total RAM (148MB/2GB) left for sampling, recording audio etc. (does this affect the sequencer and Karma capacity too?) - might be fixed with an OS and memory upgrade - again you dont have to load everything (think that's possible). |
RKfan, I believe audio tracks are recorded directly to the SSD, so no RAM limitation.
And the buttons are not wobbly. They are not soft and have a firm click. _________________ Roland Fantom-G6 ARX1, Korg M3-m exb-Radias, Korg Z1-18v, Roland MC-808, Roland MC-909, Korg microKontrol. |
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Randelph Platinum Member
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 604 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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The Pros are obvious, the reasons so many of us are excited about this board. I'm thrilled that Korg is leading the way and getting out of just more recycled rompler synthesis; etc.
The Cons:
- no physical drum pads- I like them on the M3, mine haven't mal-functioned yet
- no second controller pedal input (I like to use one for volume, so I need a second for modulation)
- wheels are on top: I like the Nord Stage style, it makes an 88 note board a much more manageable length
- no 73/76 note version like the Nord Stage Compact: joystick on top, semi-weighted action, weight under 25 pounds, a fantastically portable gigging board
- I prefer low C, not E, for 73/76 note boards
- User RAM very low
- Size of fonts; I suppose this could be an OS update; will just have to use reading glasses
Seriously though, if the Kronos is wildly popular, I hope that by next NAMM that they come out with a Nord Stage Compact version of the Kronos. There's no good reason that the Big 4 have to stick us, everytime, with joysticks to the far left, which makes an already long board an aircraft carrier. Stick to the status quo for all the other boards, but make this lightweight one shorter.
Having a slimmed down semi-weighted version of the 73/76 would sell on the merits of being under 30 pounds and having the semi-weighted keybed!
Randy _________________ Keyboards: Kawai ES920 / Casio CT-X5000
Instruments: Keys / Alto Recorder and Melodica |
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Citizen Klaus Full Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 171 Location: Bloomington, IN
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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RKfan wrote: | (1) with all EXis loaded it takes more than 2 mins to boot (it will be longer if you fill up the remaining memory with your own sounds because they have to be loaded - answer just load what you want) - I think this could be fixed for the English with a simple message "I'd go and make a cup of tea if I were you mate!" |
Better yet: "Welcome back, my friends, to the boot that never ends." |
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jimknopf Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Not true according to my information from Musikmesse.
The new OS version boots significantly faster according to what I was told.
We will have to wait to see it confirmed. |
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TRIaXOR
Joined: 12 Nov 2010 Posts: 8
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:49 am Post subject: |
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looks more like the BBC micro or C64 version tbh (I had the C64 ver, lol) _________________ Korg M3 with EXB-Radias & EXB-M256 ~ MicroKorg ~ Roland Juno Stage ~ Access Virus TI2 (OS4) ~ Reason 5 ~ Ableton Live 8 |
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EXer Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 558 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Kronus.. PROS and COns |
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apex wrote: | GregC wrote: |
Pros:
its not a Motif
its not a Kurzweil
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ah ha... but you didn't say Fantom G. Finally the Fantom gets the respect it deserves!!!! |
Yes, it does not even deserve to be mentioned here |
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Shakil Platinum Member
Joined: 08 Jan 2002 Posts: 1169 Location: New Jersey, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:14 am Post subject: |
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apex.. when the manufacturers abandon and ignore their own products, no one can give the deserved respect. _________________ Roland Fantom-G6 ARX1, Korg M3-m exb-Radias, Korg Z1-18v, Roland MC-808, Roland MC-909, Korg microKontrol. |
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