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McHale
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| EvilDragon wrote: | Wow, tremendous overhead, f*ck*ng PONG. It ran on what, 32 kB of RAM (less?), 8-bit CPU? Wow. BLOAT! LOL. 
Also, several months? PONG can be coded in a few hours. Or less.  |
Wow, you know nothing about discreet circuits, dedicated hardware, or arcade emulation. Pong is not a complicated game, but software has to emulate hardware which takes much more RAM and code space than the game itself.
But again, it's a complete waste of time to even bother putting kids games in a keyboard OS. Explain to me at what point you plan on really using that "feature?"
Isn't it enough that they put a PolySix in there?!
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EvilDragon
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| McHale wrote: | | Explain to me at what point you plan on really using that "feature?" |
Missing the point there, McHale. 
Myself wouldn't be using it per se, however I completely disagree with you in this quote.
| McHale wrote: | | I'd be pissed if I found out that the KRONOS was delayed a couple months because the "pong" game wasn't working right. I also don't want a bloated OS... |
That certainly would not be the case with Kronos, because it doesn't use dedicated hardware for main number crunching - it uses off-the-shelf PC components and there's no need for arcade emulation when the code can run natively. Atom CPU can definitely run natively coded Pong without a "bloated overhead" and without breaking a sweat, it's piss easy and can do it with 0.001% of its available processing power. C64 could do it easily with its few MHz of CPU speed. You know that.
I'm not saying that they should include it! I'm saying that it wouldn't be a bloat even if it were there. |
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cello
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| McHale wrote: | | Isn't it enough that they put a PolySix in there?! |
You obviously haven't used a PolySix on an O with arp and Karma going through Fx... 
A whole lot better than you might think
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McHale
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| cello wrote: | | McHale wrote: | | Isn't it enough that they put a PolySix in there?! |
You obviously haven't used a PolySix on an O with arp and Karma going through Fx...
A whole lot better than you might think |
wait wait wait. I'm not suggesting that the PolySix is a toy or a joke. I'm suggesting that they emulated a PolySix in the Kronos, so why bother emulating Pong? I think the PolySix in the OASYS (and Kronos) sounds fantastic.
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EXer
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| McHale wrote: | | I think the PolySix in the OASYS (and Kronos) sounds fantastic. |
It may even sound better than the original cheap single oscillator polysynth it is meant to emulate...
A very appreciable Easter egg would be an emulation of a Korg PS-3300. It would even be more appreciable if it was not hidden...
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Akos Janca
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cello
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| McHale wrote: | | wait wait wait. I'm not suggesting that the PolySix is a toy or a joke. I'm suggesting that they emulated a PolySix in the Kronos, so why bother emulating Pong? I think the PolySix in the OASYS (and Kronos) sounds fantastic. |
Gotcha now - sorry that I misunderstood your post, McHale - and you're right; it is fantastic!
| EXer wrote: | | A very appreciable Easter egg would be an emulation of a Korg PS-3300. It would even be more appreciable if it was not hidden... |
Yes - I would DEFINITELY like that 
| Akos Janca wrote: | | The question might be interesting for some but the thread doesn't make any sense. Nobody knows the answer now except Korg - and they wouldn't reveal it here. |
Quite - and why buy a Kronos for the easter egg... ? I go to Korg for music, I go to Sony for games...
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jmexio
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| cello wrote: | | Quite - and why buy a Kronos for the easter egg... ? I go to Korg for music, I go to Sony for games... |
And to get your identity and credit card details stolen, which is almost always tremendously fun!
Cheers,
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StephenKay
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Actually, there *is* an easter egg in there: when you press certain keyboard keys (exactly which ones change at random) at the same time, it reboots the unit as an M3 with two synth engines - and this is permanent and can't be reversed. Careful what you wish for...
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Shakil
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Steve.... Does it work on M3 the other way around? I want to reboot the M3 as a KRONOS....
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ScoobyDoo555
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Could be worse - the Easter Egg could reboot your Kronos as a Motif or Fantom
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