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What, maybe $75 or $100? I Would have gladly payed it.

[MartinHines]

[EvilDragon]

[Akos Janca]

Just a note: to answer the fidelity question I would make a direct A to B comparison plugging both instruments in the same mixer in a quiet studio and let my ear decide.

1. I would try playing on both keyboards with the same (= similarly named!) Programs and Combis.
2. I would also record them internally then compare the resulted digital data.
3. I would load the same Song (including MIDI and Audio tracks) into both instruments and listen to them and record them, too, to compare by ear and a digital editor on computer.
4. I would load my OASYS Programs into Kronos then check how they sound compared to similarly named new factory sounds of Kronos.

ONLY THEN could I give a definite answer.
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[Mutter]

Quality Balanced outputs! I always thought this should be standard on a pro keyboard. and if kronos had 4 inputs like the oasys it would be killer and TRS. is ok if not the room for XLR.

[X-Trade]

OASYS has the all-important function button!
I'm not sure what it does, but I've heard a lot about it...



On a more serious note, the OASYS just emits this higher class of workmanship, design, and inspiration. I think its a kind of placebo denial symptom that occurs almost as soon as you realise how much you paid for it...
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[cello]

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[cello]

[Sina172]

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[cello]

How wrong your are Sina. Not everyone has an income every month.

Just like no-one can afford the 300 OASYS (or is it Tritons?) you have or however many it is.

And who said I don't love my OASYS? I think it's the best keyboard produced by any manufacturer, ever.

But I don't like being treated like a fool - and I don't respect a company that chooses to treat a) previous customers as fools and b) future customers as fools.

That is what Korg has done. Future customers are buying a cheap OASYS - with a couple of add ons. Previous customers are being denied the 'extended' OASYS because it's only available if you buy a Kronos.

Yes OASYS is a work of art. Yes, Kronos is absolutely a key landmark. Bit it is simply a re-hash of the OASYS, with add-ons which have been denied the people who have paid double the price.

And before Danatkorg chimes in, I DID NOT PAY DOUBLE THE PRICE BECAUSE I BOUGHT IT USED (Clear enough dan? - by the way are you ever going to reply that pm you requested that was very lengthy or don't you care?) - but I did buy into a concept that the OASYS was the only way I was going to get what the O could do. And then they release the Kronos...

As an adviser to the Kellogg board I am seriously tempted to get them to make the Kronos a case study about how NOT to release a product...

And the evidence is all over korgforums.com.

The only one saving grace of the Kronos is that it can replace my sounds on the O when it dies... other than that the Kronos is nothing special that hasn't been around for 6 years.
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[theshinenz]

Go back to the Oasys forum dude,....we are all excited about the Kronos here so get over it man.

[peter_schwartz]

Cello, I'm not looking to rub salt in your wound, OK? Just chiming in with a perspective. You're free (of course) to take or leave it.

Anyone who bought the Oasys had an opportunity to acquire an amazing keyboard instrument/workstation that simply wasn't available at any other price. Or any other moment in time, at the time. Considering the time difference between the introduction of the O and the K, Oasys owners had at the time of their purchase -- and thus at their disposal -- creative resources which no other workstation provided in sonic character or synthesis type (particularly MOD-7 and STR-1).

As with so many other things technological AND exclusive (c'mon guys, the Oasys was really only affordable to a select few) the initial entrée of a product into the market is going to carry a hefty price tag. And FWIW, the amount of time and resources that went into the production of the Oasys were not exactly slight, as you can probably imagine. I was personally involved for a year and a half on the project, and it was somewhat humbling at first to be included on the development of an instrument that was already many years in the making. All of that R&D and development time had to carry a price tag of some kind. And for those of you who purchased an Oasys, whether you're the type who sneezes out dollar bills when you get a cold, or, you struggled to make payments, you obviously made the investment for a reason. I would simply ask, what was that reason? And why, so many years later, are you having buyer's remorse (or just pissed off that what you have is now being sold for less)?

I don't believe that it could have been foreseen -- in the midst of bringing the Oasys to market at that time -- that a less-expensive version was in the cards any time in the near future. I don't believe that any nefarious forces were or are at work; no fat-cat VP's wringing their hands in back room offices at Korg celebrating the way in which they've fleeced a few thousand people (e.g., the actual number of O's that were sold). No, I just don't see that. It's not the personality of the Korg I know.

If you have an Oasys, I would suggest making the most of it before the rest of the world catches up to utilizing its sounds and capabilities. And you can also take solace in the fact that you have, in your Oasys, some of its features which no Kronos owner will ever have: tilt screen, LED encoders, and other hardware features that give the Oasys a certain feel and panache.

[Davidb]

[Akos Janca]