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billbaker Platinum Member
Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 2206 Location: Vienna, Virginia, USA
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 5:02 pm Post subject: PIMP MY KRONOS (with Nano Pads/Keys/Control) |
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Seems to me that some of the things people see as "missing" on Kronos are Oasys/Karma/M3 pads, extra physical control knobs (for on the fly tweaking of AL-1 - MS/20) and unweighted keys for the synths.
Could nano-line products fill the void(s)?
That clean retro deck would take one easily enough - which would it be for you?
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ScoobyDoo555 Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 840 Location: Herefordshire, UK
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Pads might be useful. _________________ Yamaha SY77 & KX88, SSL Nucleus, Korg Kronos 61, Wavestation A/D, Access Virus B, Roland XP30, DeepMind12D, System 1m, V-Synth XT, Focusrite Red16Line, Unitor 8, Akai S3000 XL, Alesis Quadraverb+, Focal Shape Twins, Full fat iMac, Logic Pro X, ProTools 2021, loadsa plugins.
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dustymaestro
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 46
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have few different drum machines with pads. With that said I dont mind using keys to program drums. Sometimes I prefer it.
I dont think the nano pads have midi out. You would have to go through a computer first. You also have to find if the parameters on the Kronos synth engines can be midi assigned. |
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ScottB601 Junior Member
Joined: 18 Nov 2010 Posts: 58 Location: Rural Illiniois in the Middle of Nowhere
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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The pads are available with the touchscreen, aren't they? I saw that somewhere. |
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ScoobyDoo555 Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 840 Location: Herefordshire, UK
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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yeh, they're apparently on touch screen, but I'm still not convinced about banging in my beats on the screen!!
Would LOVE to see a Korg demo of somebody doing this! _________________ Yamaha SY77 & KX88, SSL Nucleus, Korg Kronos 61, Wavestation A/D, Access Virus B, Roland XP30, DeepMind12D, System 1m, V-Synth XT, Focusrite Red16Line, Unitor 8, Akai S3000 XL, Alesis Quadraverb+, Focal Shape Twins, Full fat iMac, Logic Pro X, ProTools 2021, loadsa plugins.
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billbaker Platinum Member
Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 2206 Location: Vienna, Virginia, USA
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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dustymaestro,
Yeah, I think the nano's are all USB - which begs the question whether they could be powered BY Kronos (as peripheral USB device) as well as (maybe) providing control input.
The question's in my head after seeing Rudess demos of nano devices (keys & pads - wow) and comments by some indicating a preference for for "real" as opposed to "virtual" knobs in some of the posts on the i-pad section.
I imagine things will work on K's touchscreen much as they do for the i-pad's version of the legacy collection as far as control motions -- at which point some folks will no doubt feel the need to comment about sensitivity, ergonomics and screen resolution.
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Synthvalley Junior Member
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 59 Location: Wisconsin, USA
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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billbaker wrote: | Yeah, I think the nano's are all USB - which begs the question whether they could be powered BY Kronos (as peripheral USB device) as well as (maybe) providing control input. |
Dan addressed the nano pad question here.
I'm not an Oasys owner, but it seems Oasys-like velocity sensitive pads would be preferable to the way pads are implemented on the Kronos touch screen.
So I will be debating the merits of midi external pad solutions in the near-term vs. possible (but certainly not promised) usb solutions in the future. |
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Synthesizedclapping Junior Member
Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Posts: 91 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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The nano products will not work with Kronos.
I believe I read this from a korg Employee. Rich F I think said so. _________________ Listening to Music too loud is like reading with the text an inch away from your face. |
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ScottB601 Junior Member
Joined: 18 Nov 2010 Posts: 58 Location: Rural Illiniois in the Middle of Nowhere
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt very much if I'll ever use the "pads" on the touchscreen also - depends on their sensitivity and if they are or ain't velocity sensitive, which I don't see how they could be. Maybe for effects or something....... |
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EXer Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 558 Location: France
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: PIMP MY KRONOS (with Nano Pads/Keys/Control) |
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billbaker wrote: | Could nano-line products fill the void(s)? |
Have you tried the 'search' function of this forum before asking?
There have been many posts about Kronos and Nanopad... |
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synthguy Platinum Member
Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 661
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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I'm giving some thought to one of the AKAI key controllers with those sliders, knobs and pads, though it's just a passing thought. Right now, my M3 is sounding so good, and the pads so useful, I intend to keep it. Plus the keyboard feels wonderful. I intend to use it to drive my Kronos 88 so I don't wear my fingers out on the piano action, at least till I adjust to it. _________________ PRAY FOR THIS PLANET!! |
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Hugo Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 809
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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It would be very wise of Korg to make the Kronos capable of commuicating with the Nano controllers... It shouldn't be hard to implement, should it? |
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Scott Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 1013
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:31 am Post subject: |
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ScottB601 wrote: | I doubt very much if I'll ever use the "pads" on the touchscreen also - depends on their sensitivity and if they are or ain't velocity sensitive, which I don't see how they could be. Maybe for effects or something....... |
As I understand it,, the way they handle velocity for the onscreen touchpads is that t pads are long vertical bands... you alter the velocity based on how far up the band you hit them. You don't actually hit the screen harder, you just hit in in a "higher velocity" region of the virtual pad. |
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ScottB601 Junior Member
Joined: 18 Nov 2010 Posts: 58 Location: Rural Illiniois in the Middle of Nowhere
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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You know what, you're right, I knew that. I forgot about the vertical positioning as a velocity sensitive emulation. As for the search function, it's useless to me as it is on this page. It's much easier and better to use a search engine, I use Big Brother.......er......I mean Google or Bing. You get much better results searching outside the forum search function. And outside, of course, allows the highly advanced technical leap of brilliance of allowing quotes instead of using "and" to link search terms together. Good Lord. We had to use "and" for search strings back in the fifties! |
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ScoobyDoo555 Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 840 Location: Herefordshire, UK
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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All well and good, but what happens when you get "caught in the moment"..... that screen will only take so much of a beating! _________________ Yamaha SY77 & KX88, SSL Nucleus, Korg Kronos 61, Wavestation A/D, Access Virus B, Roland XP30, DeepMind12D, System 1m, V-Synth XT, Focusrite Red16Line, Unitor 8, Akai S3000 XL, Alesis Quadraverb+, Focal Shape Twins, Full fat iMac, Logic Pro X, ProTools 2021, loadsa plugins.
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