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EXer · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:38 am Post subject: New EXi for Kronos!

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An interesting idea would be to implement a new EXi in Kronos: ADD-1 (or DSS-2 Wink

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Take all the features that were implemented in the best hardware additive synth ever (see the SOS review of the K5000S/R and the SOS review of the K5000W), add (pun intended!) an on-screen graphical editor for the harmonics and a resynthesis function like in the OEM SoundDiver that was developed for the K5K, and you'll have a groundbreaking '10th synth engine' that will allow you to advertise: 'KRONOS, the ultimate synth workstation'.

Ok, ok, I won't speak about granular synthesis Wink

X-Trade · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:50 am Post subject:

+1
Additive fourier synthesis (besides what is available in a limited fashion in CX-3) is sadly lacking and would be an immensely powerful engine if implemented properly.
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synthguy · Platinum Member Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 661

You goof. Misleading thread title? Razz

And not bringing up granular synthesis is probably a good idea because it's not really synthesis, but a sound mangling effect. I'm really not impressed with it myself.

But as a SUGGESTION for a new EXi, sure. The problem with additive synthesis though is that almost no one can understand or utilize it properly, which is why almost no one uses it. FM is much more useful because you can get more musically useful results experimenting with it with the average user. It's much more interesting to me, and seems to be for most people, though I bet way more people will use the subtractive engines.

MOD-7 will give you a nice basic additive engine to play with. I know the die-hards, all three of them here, will complain that they want 16 partials to play with. But if you can't get interesting sounds using six harmonics, I doubt 16 will benefit you any more.
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EvilDragon · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:46 am Post subject:

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I would like to see modeled synth engines of vintage machines other than korgs. like the mini moog or memorymoog. sounds like it's not possable but thats kinda been done with cx3

DaveBoulden · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject:

RKfan · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:41 pm Post subject:

Noooo - I dont want any more EXis - it'll just give them more time to delay things with the 9 engines they currently have promised.

But a Prophet emulation would be coool.

DaveBoulden · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:49 pm Post subject:

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RC-IA · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject:

I would bet ( a coffee) to see monopoly before anything else!

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

EXer, could you please change the title?
It reads as if Korg had actually added an additional EXi to the Kronos.

The only really useful additional EXi I could imagine at the moment would be a dedicated brass EXi. Everything else may be entertaining or funny, but hardly urgent from my view.

For everyday use, further development of the sequencer (at least towards M3 level) would probably be much more rewarding for many users than some exotic kinds of new EXis.

Zeroesque · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject:

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

It is always hard to tell who wants what, and I have no statistics, just impression from musician talks.

To me a certain amount of editing belongs to the first stages of song writing, and arranging songs from others. If I can't edit on the fly, I tend to lose focus of the whole idea and feel the urge to work with software right away. So like you, I don't use an onboard sequencer for completing songs. But I need standard editing functions (definitely a piano roll view) while developing ideas.

From Fantom G times I know that many users DID made use of the built in sequencer despite its issues, some of them just for idea sketching (I found anything else on the Fantom G sequencer a pain), some of them even trying to write whole songs, and a few seriously trying to master with the second or third rate onboard mastering of the Fantom.

Perhaps we should make a separate thread asking users in here about sequencer expectations?

TSUNAMI · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:57 pm Post subject:

My want would be to have NO seq, I can think of nothing more cumbersome to use than an onboard limited seq. Give me Logic any day, But for those on limited budgets, an all in one solution is great ( i started writing on a SY85 Seq when i started out)

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

Tsunami, to me it is no budget question, and I have no problems using software.

But even with the limited functions of the Fantom G, I have found recording directly at the keyboard the by far most straightforward and intuitive way of basic song writing and recording. No software sequencing solution does the same for me to stay equally focused in the first stages of song writing.