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Randelph
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Hmmmm... I wonder if the German I learned from my German girlfriend way back when will help me with the manual:
"Du bist an alt bedrunken cannal ratten!". She insisted I say this to someone when I meet them for the first time.
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jimknopf
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yes,
"you are an old drunk sewer rat" certainly is a cordial welcome everybody will appreciate 
Great that the German manual and voicelist is out!
If someone wants an English version, ask again in five months or so, but don't expect too much.  |
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ScoobyDoo555
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Perhaps it's just my perverse mind, but "canal ratten" brings to mind a TOTALLY different pastime!! Poor girl 
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Mystic38
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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lol...
| RKfan wrote: | Downloaded it - shoudl have time to learn german before the UK release.
Wunderbar - see its working already. |
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jimknopf
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Just by the way:
"wunderbar" is one of my favorite German words. It has a slightly other meaning than the English/American wonder"ful". This other feeling simply can't be translated, but is genuinely German "soul" in a very positive way.
It even caused a German band to write a song with the title "The Wunderbar"
Yes. back on topic: I will be able to test the manual tomorrow directly in front of a Kronos (or the other way round) - undisturbed by crowds. THAT will be , well, "wunderbar"...  |
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Randelph
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Randy wrote:"Du bist an alt bedrunken cannal ratten!". She insisted I say this to someone when I meet them for the first time.
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Jim Knopf wrote
"you are an old drunk sewer rat" certainly is a cordial welcome everybody will appreciate |
She was the best- wouldn't help me with learning real German but loved to teach me bits of nonsense like this. Still miss her!
Randy
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McHale
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| RKfan wrote: | See the bottom of page 254 and most of page 255 - some interesting errors - these were copied directly from the kronos forum....
.... sorry couldnt resist it! |
what was it? I downloaded and already deleted them since I don't speak German.
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Chriskk
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| All the VS waveforms are included! |
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NuSkoolTone
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Read the voice list. Sounds like there's a LOT of sonic content in there.
Would take years to audition all the samples inside competently I'd say. Sure there's probably some overlap but it's all good.
To my understanding, ALL the memory locations are writable, so I really don't see what the whining is about with *only* 1600+ locations. WHO uses ALL the factory Combis? Yes as you make the Kronos "Your own" there will be some work involved with patch management and such (Fancy THAT!) but once you go through it, you're good! If they have a utility to assist with this, then AWESOME. Though it's not like this is some NEW thing to anyone who's owned a synth before.
To drive the point my Motif XS has like Eight Banks of presets. Do you know how many are writable? NONE, ZILCH, NADA! I get a Measly THREE user banks to play with, and that includes COPIES of existing presets that needed a tweak beyond what performance mode can do.
I think it might have been cool to have more than 4 Combi banks, but in the greater scheme of things, it's fine. I mean OH MY GOD you might have to create another .PCG file to load (In all of 2 secs probably) for different scenarios using your Kronos! The HORROR!
<----Anxiously awaiting the English Manual.
Thanks!
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Gargamel314
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| NuSkoolTone wrote: | Read the voice list. Sounds like there's a LOT of sonic content in there.
Would take years to audition all the samples inside competently I'd say. Sure there's probably some overlap but it's all good.
To my understanding, ALL the memory locations are writable, so I really don't see what the whining is about with *only* 1600+ locations. WHO uses ALL the factory Combis? Yes as you make the Kronos "Your own" there will be some work involved with patch management and such (Fancy THAT!) but once you go through it, you're good! If they have a utility to assist with this, then AWESOME. Though it's not like this is some NEW thing to anyone who's owned a synth before.
To drive the point my Motif XS has like Eight Banks of presets. Do you know how many are writable? NONE, ZILCH, NADA! I get a Measly THREE user banks to play with, and that includes COPIES of existing presets that needed a tweak beyond what performance mode can do.
I think it might have been cool to have more than 4 Combi banks, but in the greater scheme of things, it's fine. I mean OH MY GOD you might have to create another .PCG file to load (In all of 2 secs probably) for different scenarios using your Kronos! The HORROR!
<----Anxiously awaiting the English Manual.
Thanks! |
this post def puts things in perspective. it's a little disheartening to know that you can't load all the cool extra PCGs in at the same time. But it's even more disheartening when there just AREN'T extra PCG's to load at all. It's a shame you can't load programs into the empty combi banks.
Someone said something about putting programs into bank I-G (GM bank). In past workstations, this has been a ROM-only bank, and programs are un-editable. Is it a writable bank in the the Kronos?
Also, a couple notes...
EXs1 i see some new strings and some other new acoustic sounds.
EXs4 looks like it may have in it the pianos from the M3- EX3 and Xpanded samples. They look similar. That's pretty cool.
And is that a new timpani sample set in EXs5?
There's a bunch of new things in here that Korg hasn't really demonstrated or talked about. I just can't wait to get my hands on one! I'm starting to feel like i won't miss anything in the M3 now ...
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orpheus2006
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| jimknopf wrote: | | It even caused a German band to write a song with the title "The Wunderbar" |
Wasn't the title The Wonderbra?
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EnjoyRC
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 11:54 am Post subject: |
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We Want English.. We Want English.. We Want English..
( in a chant sort of fashion )
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NavidSyed
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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for some reason I was always under the impression that most of the Korg manuals were written in English and then translated into other languages? guess that is not the not the case..  |
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Melodialworks Music
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| NavidSyed wrote: | | for some reason I was always under the impression that most of the Korg manuals were written in English and then translated into other languages? guess that is not the not the case.. |
I imagine written initially in either English, or Japanese and then translated. Just because the English version hasn't been released yet, doesn't mean that it hasn't been written yet, or wasn't written first, it means it wasn't released first. |
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[quote="Gargamel314"]
Someone said something about putting programs into bank I-G (GM bank). In past workstations, this has been a ROM-only bank, and programs are un-editable. Is it a writable bank in the the Kronos?
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I don't know how it works on Korg's current instruments, but I remember a few years back downloading an app that could let you replace the presets in the GM bank on a Triton. Apparently that bank is saved as part of the operationg system, and the program would edit the OS to put your custom presets in, in place of the factory GM stuff. I never actually bothered to try it, but it was an interesting idea.
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