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KorgKeymaster · Junior Member Joined: 19 May 2011 Posts: 52

Does the Kronos have string resonance like the nord stage 2? I know the kronos has damper resonance.

Thoraldus · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: String Resonance

KorgKeymaster · Junior Member Joined: 19 May 2011 Posts: 52

Thoraldus, Thanks 4 the reply!

So this works even without the use of the damper pedal?

burningbusch · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject:

I doubt the Kronos supports string resonance (e.g. gently hold down a D triad, then loudly play a low D and the triad will quietly sound). I have not heard anything about it, nor was it mentioned in the SGX-1 video. I find it to be a subtle effect. Roland has had it on their RD series for sometime and I'll bet 95% of the owners are unaware of it. Roland never made a big deal about it where as Nord did.

Mystic38 · Senior Member Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 266

that would be the VERY sympathetic string resonance Smile

KorgKeymaster · Junior Member Joined: 19 May 2011 Posts: 52

Yeah burningbusch.... I was searching for that in the sgx-1 vid. I'm sure it ads something to the playing but I think all the effects that the kronos offers will outweigh the Stage 2's piano samples.

On another note.... Any Upright's in the Kronos?

burningbusch · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:55 pm Post subject:

EvilDragon · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 9:32 am Post subject:

Damper resonance and sympathetic string resonance are two different things... As burningbusch says, I didn't hear true sympathetic resonance in any of the demos. And the ultimate test for this is as busch explained - silently hold a chord, then play the root of that chord several octaves above staccato - the chord should ring along with the staccato note.

X-Trade · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject:

Even the triton series has damper resonance I'd have to check how it performs but I'd thought it 'undamped' the currently active strings..

It is still a very subtle effect and I've hardly seen the point.
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Thoraldus · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:54 pm Post subject:

From the KRONOS Parameter Guide ...

The SGX‐1 Premium Piano EXi is designed to provide an optimal acoustic piano experience, combining world‐class sounds, subtle performance nuances, and a dedicated, easy‐to‐use interface. Features include:
• Full chromatic sampling, with every note sampled in stereo at up to 8 velocity levels, for natural and smooth response
• True damper resonance, also chromatically sampled, with multiple velocity layers
• No loops: sounds decay naturally
• High polyphony—up to 100 dual‐stereo voices, the equivalent of 400 mono voices
• Realistic performance nuances, including mechanical noise controlled by release velocity, damper pedal noise controlled by pedal velocity, and note release

I guess we need someone from KORG to define what "true damper resonance" means. Wink

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EvilDragon · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:16 am Post subject:

Once again: damper resonance is NOT the same as string resonance.

Randelph · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:04 am Post subject:

These kinds of effects are best heard with solo piano that is not too busy and has sweetly clangorous bass rumblings and held chords that take advantage of these resonating inharmonisations.

Moody classical and thoughtful new age pieces can naturally reach for this, and for sweeping improvisers it's one more color on the plucked piano soundboard pallet.

And with the Overb, and a superb sound system, and an open, expansive, listening space, it's pure loveliness...
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Thoraldus · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:40 am Post subject:

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X-Trade · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:38 am Post subject:

When you press any key, it is un-damped. So why should Korg's 'damper resonance' not include notes which are held down other than with the damper pedal?

It all depends on the mechanics of the actual programming, which I think either you'll have to get an answer from Korg, or you'll have to figure it out for yourself by turning the noise element up in the SGX-1 engine.
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