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RKfan · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:18 am Post subject: Which DAW to go for??

Thinking of upgrading my DAW - probably going to go for Sonar X1 (not the producer version).

But will this integrate the Kronos - i.e. will there be a Kronos instrument file so that I can associate a track with the patches (or patch locations)?

And do these files (there should be another one for the drumkits) come from korg or from cakewalk?

Anyone know?

EvilDragon · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:20 am Post subject:

Good call. I could make a .ReaBank file for Reaper according to the voice name list.

X-Trade · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:25 am Post subject:

You really should be using the plugin editor. It should make voice name lists obselete as you should theoretically be able to use it to store your KRONOS setup in the project as the VST settings.

Would certainly be interesting to hear if this works in reality, I know a lot of users had trouble with the M3 editor plugin.
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EvilDragon · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:31 am Post subject:

Ha. I just saw that there are no MSB/LSB/PC codes for programs and combis in the voice name guide. That's too bad.

A .ReaBank file allows you to actually display the name of the preset in a CC lane you're switching to, so you don't have to memorize MSB/LSB/PC value, you just select a patch from the list. It's mainly for piano roll people.

Mystic38 · Senior Member Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 266

its not super hard to create an .ins file for sonar, more laborious than anything.. this is usually created by either the instrument manufacturer or one of the early customers..like umm.. you?..lol, but anyway check out on the cakewalk forums and post there.

also, think again about the producer edition.. i had studio for a while then went to the PE and started kicking myself over false economy..you get a HUGE amount in the bundle

Gargamel314 · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 2:53 pm Post subject:

I have to say I've had some issues in using the M3's VST plugin editor. It would save me a lot of time in messing with effects and correct handling of program names. It's probably just my lack of know-how in workflow, but I find it simpler to just use the voice name list and use track templates to save info. There's very limited information on the web about using it with Sonar... Lots of questions in forums, but no answers. Seems most M3 users DON'T use Sonar. Hopefully the Kronos's plugin editor will play nicer with Sonar than the M3's.

I've considered making an INS instrument definition file for the Kronos. It's actually really easy. But it's sort of obsolete especially considering how you have to customize all the programs on the Kronos with the limited user banks. To answer the question about INS files, usually they are user-written. Cakewalk does supply a lot of instrument definitions for older gear, but they don't usually create ones for newer gear. User-written INS files usually show up on Cakewalk's and Korg's websites eventually. I know I got the Triton Extreme's from Korg's website, i found the M3's on the web, and I had to create the Korg Karma and N364's myself when they came out new.

Sonar is still a GREAT DAW to use. It has some amazing MIDI sequencer features, and the workflow in the new X1 version is excellent. One of my favorite features is the track folder function, where you can control multiple tracks as one, which makes it perfect for recording combis, multiple layers of tracks, etc. It allows you to take advantage of all Korg Workstation features except KARMA, RPPR, and Effects settings (these you just gotta do manually).
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BasariStudios · Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:07 am Post subject:

My Cubase 6 Upgrade came today, i am on Cubase since version 3.7 VST,
way before VST Instruments actually...back in 1998...i wouldnt switch or
trade it for a full blown Accell HD3 with SSL J9000 Series console.
This thing is awesome.
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synthguy · Platinum Member Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 661

I really dig Cubase too. But most likely, I'm going to spring for Studio One Pro as well. It looks like it was designed by musicians, so the workflow looks drag and drop easy, and everyone raves over the sound quality.

If you only want to spend a couple hundred, Reaper looks great, though it may not be quite as mature as the other pro DAWs.
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orpheus2006 · Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 8:14 am Post subject:

I use Sonar X1 and will keep it. Kronos is NOT a reason for changing the DAW.
I will provide an instrument file for Sonar (as I did for the M3) if I buy a Kronos.
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jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

X1 here too.
I prefer the Sonar X1 user interface over that of Cubase, and X1's midi functionality over that of Studio One.

Everybody should choose a DAW according to own preferences: for use with the Kronos plugin it should make no difference.

@orpheus: now that I know that, you should definitely buy a Kronos as soon as possible! Wink